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  • I clicked on the readmore of a "callout post", read something that led me to make an awful hideous groaning noise, and then closed it immediately.

    I don't know what I was expecting.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Haven said:

    I clicked on the readmore of a "callout post", read something that led me to make an awful hideous groaning noise, and then closed it immediately.


    I don't know what I was expecting.
    Was it a real callout kind of thing (as in, someone did something legit horrible and you should avoid them) or just some dumb post whinging about a trivial infraction by some person the poster doesn't like?
  • The first two items were "they are white and they used 'bruh'" and "they made fun of someone who self-diagnosed with DID" (which is what led to aforementioned groan and ragequit, for a lot of reasons). So if there was something legit horrible they were seriously burying the lede.
  • Sup bitches, witches, Haters, and trolls.
    image
    #gamergate
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    Haven said:

    The first two items were "they are white and they used 'bruh'" and "they made fun of someone who self-diagnosed with DID" (which is what led to aforementioned groan and ragequit, for a lot of reasons). So if there was something legit horrible they were seriously burying the lede.

    Tumblr can be do very teenagery sometimes

    Like, it's not enough to just say "I dislike this person", you have to come up with some rationalization in terms of social justice, no matter how flimsy
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”

    Haven said:

    The first two items were "they are white and they used 'bruh'" and "they made fun of someone who self-diagnosed with DID" (which is what led to aforementioned groan and ragequit, for a lot of reasons). So if there was something legit horrible they were seriously burying the lede.

    Tumblr can be do very teenagery sometimes

    Like, it's not enough to just say "I dislike this person", you have to come up with some rationalization in terms of social justice, no matter how flimsy
    Yeah, but I think that's more than a Tumblr or teenager thing. People like to justify their irritation at other people's behaviour in terms that fit a moral framework rather than admit that the reason something gets their goat is more personal. It's just that young people who have found a cause that really excites them tend to use that cause as their jumping off point, and Tumblr is a good platform for insular soapboxing.
  • edited 2014-11-18 10:50:34
    “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Clearly the pr9pagati9n 9f h99f6east glandular pr9duct is yet an9ther example 9f 6lue-bl99ded cultural imperialism, n9t t9 menti9n a deeply pr96lematic asserti9n 9f lact9se privilege and p9ssible fascistic tendencies re: the fetishization of STRENGTH. #tw: mammals #tw: Zahhak #*ugh* those guys
  • kill living beings
    i guess somebody could be confused about lactase persistence statistics?

    mongolians have the highest stats. neat.
  • edited 2014-11-18 10:58:14
    “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    But in all seriousness, we do attempt to keep the "laughing at moonbats" thing to a minimum, even if we occasionally slip or find ourselves talking about something related to the subject.

    Also, there is the teensiest bit of logic to the original statement: Not that milk is "white supremacist" or whatever, which is ludicrous, but that dairy's introduction into once milk-free cultures as a prestige food does correspond to some rather insidious cultural influences—"Western = civilised," especially in mainland China, and so forth. But it's not a cause, rather a very strange symptom of an older, subtler problem.

    ^ Mongolia's most famous traditional beverage, fermented horse milk, is pretty much unique in world cuisine in that it is an effervescent alcoholic dairy product.
  • It wasn't a moonbat thing so much as an FMA joke though
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    True.

    I'll admit that I'm really rusty on my FMA, so I kinda went "huh?"
  • kill living beings

    ^ Mongolia's most famous traditional beverage, fermented horse milk, is pretty much unique in world cuisine in that it is an effervescent alcoholic dairy product.

    god damned innovators *salutes*
  • edited 2014-11-18 12:06:57
    “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”

    Moonbat?

    The left-wing equivalent to a wingnut. The kind of person that makes sane social justice types (i.e. like half 90% of this forum) go "uuuuggggghhhh..."
  • Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    Alright, fine.

    The reason I hate Benedict Cumberbatch is because I thought 'The Blind Banker' was good but then I stepped back and looked at it and now all I see is evil, evil everywhere, evil all over everyone who was involved.

    That's my goat.
  • Well your face is evil
  • Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    Amazing.
  • Sup bitches, witches, Haters, and trolls.
    good
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    In a twisted sort of way, Tumblr actually becomes MORE tolerable on a night like tonight

    Because for once all the outrage and anger feels like it's directed at something that actually warrants it
  • kill living beings
    luckily i'm still seeing some dumb bullshit in addition to that :V
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    :(

    *gives you a blanket*
  • kill living beings
    honestly it's a bit of a relief. less depressing and all.
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    ...point.
  • I feel kinda awkward that my queue's been posting like normal in the middle of all this.

    Can't really do anything about it now though.
  • Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    Same. I mean, I feel really bad about that shit but what good does that do? Nothing. It's actually not my business.

    So I continue.
  • Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    I’m going about as normal for two reasons:

    First, nobody needs to listen to me about this. I do not live in your country. I do not have a voice in your affairs. I have no stake. Nobody needs to know how I feel.

    Secondly, more selfishly, because I do not wish to acknowledge America as the center of my world. I feel that posting about my interests indirectly does that plenty enough. I mean, this could just be me sticking my head in the sand, for the US has plenty of economic and cultural importance. But that’s exactly why I’m doing it; because I don’t want to give them any more importance.

    But yes. Injustice has occurred. People are suffering. I know. It is wrong.

    I’m sorry.
  • Also, I despise the feeling that we need to spend time on a subject proportional to its importance, even when we have nothing to say.  Like the way the evening TV news feels like it needs to camp out at the scene of some disaster even though there is at most 2 minutes' worth of actual information to convey.

    To be honest, that's one of the better sides to Tumblr's easy reblogging; you can easily amplify the words of the people who do have something to say that's worthwhile.  But after a while that ends up looking like you're doing it to attach yourself to a tragedy, doing it for social points rather than for real awareness-spreading.
  • Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    Yes, it is extremely obvious that your “tumblr doesn’t seem to care about any other country than the USA” and “tumblr is too US-centric” thing only comes up when there are discussions about high profile anti-Black violence in the US 
    That's hardly fair. I'm trying to avoid talking about any big US thing, and it's been my policy for a long time now.

    Granted, I'm not complaining about the userbase, but I still - irrationally - feel it's directed partly at me.
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    Morven said:

    Also, I despise the feeling that we need to spend time on a subject proportional to its importance, even when we have nothing to say.  Like the way the evening TV news feels like it needs to camp out at the scene of some disaster even though there is at most 2 minutes' worth of actual information to convey.


    To be honest, that's one of the better sides to Tumblr's easy reblogging; you can easily amplify the words of the people who do have something to say that's worthwhile.  But after a while that ends up looking like you're doing it to attach yourself to a tragedy, doing it for social points rather than for real awareness-spreading.
    the flow of information is important though. 
  • you know that thing where you make a post

    and people reblog that post and you check out the blogs of those people

    and then you start to think "maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaybe that post i made was not a good post"
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    Which extreme are we talking here? Overzealous social justice types or outright bigots who don't realize you weren't supporting their bigotry?
  • kill living beings
    yeah
  • u kno that post i made about how christian terrorist organizations are, in fact, considered to be terrorist organizations.

    it turns out that, while factually accurate, that does end up being the sort of thing that islamophobes would like everyone to know because of course that totally disproves the idea that muslims are unfairly suspected of being terrorists for literally no reason
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    well, uh, that's less than good
  • edited 2014-11-28 01:52:27

    one might even say that it is bad!
  • kill living beings
    sometimes i feel like i should make a followup post, but nobody would care
  • edited 2014-11-28 05:30:24
    imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    A relevant question there is 'considered by who'.  Of course the FBI will (at least formally) recognize terrorists as such regardless of other aspects of their ideology, as any other policy would clearly impede their ability to do their jobs.

    But if the media, or the police, or the politicians are using 'terrorist' chiefly or exclusively as a shorthand for 'Muslim terrorist', that's a valid complaint, i think.
  • edited 2014-11-28 05:28:15
    imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    Has 'SJW' undergone a semantic shift, or was the sense used by #gamergate types around from the beginning?
  • THIS MACHINE KILLS FASCISTS
    As I understand it, "SJW" in their case means "anyone that says anything bad about us", kind of like how "liberal" is "anyone who says anything bad about the far right". It's about as far divorced from the overbearing-but-well-meaning Tumblr SJW that popularised the term as you can get now.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    It's not just anyone who says anything bad about them; they apply it to feminists who weren't even talking about the controversy, for example.

    Makes me feel kind of dirty for using the word in the past.
  • Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    Folks like me would never call ourselves "social justice warriors."

    It's because we seek power and not justice.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    You can't care about both?

    But i don't think many would call themselves 'social justice warriors'.
  • edited 2014-11-28 08:56:06
    We can do anything if we do it together.
    I just recently came to the same sense of guilt about using the term "social justice warriors" that you have now, Tachyon. 

    If it helps make you feel better, I think it's only fairly recently that the term came to be used to be used in the way that #GamerGate uses it. Unfortunately, it looks like I was right when I said that the term SJW would go the way of "political correctness". 

    I am trying to repent for my previous use of SJW by learning to not make fun of Tumblr teenagers so much, since many of them are just lashing out at how awful the world is to people like them. Instead, I am trying to focus my criticism squarely on the SA goons and people of similar mentality who channel the anger of Tumblr teenagers in order to feed their own egos, and in the process, make that anger seem less valid than it actually is.

    To me, those people are far more harmful to social discourse and to social justice than Tumblr teenagers could ever hope to be.
  • Mongolia's most famous traditional beverage, fermented horse milk, is pretty much unique in world cuisine in that it is an effervescent alcoholic dairy product.

    now i want to put some rum in a coke float
  • edited 2014-11-28 10:59:43



    Also, there is the teensiest bit of logic to the original statement: Not that milk is "white supremacist" or whatever, which is ludicrous, but that dairy's introduction into once milk-free cultures as a prestige food does correspond to some rather insidious cultural influences—"Western = civilised," especially in mainland China, and so forth. But it's not a cause, rather a very strange symptom of an older, subtler problem.

    I'm aware of that problem too, but it manifests in larger and more lasting ways - the use of English as a world language, for example.
  • Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    Tachyon said:

    You can't care about both?

    But i don't think many would call themselves 'social justice warriors'.

    I know about three or four. They're quite attached to the label.

    I mean that justice is nice and all, but what I really want is power.
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