Talkin about Tumblrs, man

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  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    hehehe
  • You know, it just occurred to me that there would likely be a sect of Tumblrians who got really incensed that John Green appeared on The Colbert Report, but I tend to keep tabs on a few particularly annoying people of that type (morbid curiosity more than anything) and I haven't heard a peep about it.
  • is there a shallow parody of The Fault in Our Stars called The Fart in Our Stalls yet?
  • Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    On one hand, how could you hate Steven Universe?

    On the other, a woman, Rebecca Sugar, created Steven Universe. There's probably some ridiculous double-standard involving this sort of thing, if it were to happen.
  • Looks like it wasn't a huge loss to misogyny in the workplace. Clarence just seems like Camp Lazlo except with with less camp.
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    and less appealing art

    Say what you will about Lazlo, but it had some beautiful backgrounds

    (the presence of Joe Murray's style for the characters could have been a point, but have you seen the later seasons of Rocko? They're funnier, but the animation has clearly been watered down)
  • edited 2014-07-03 21:53:13
    “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    [Wrong thread, I think.]
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch

    On one hand, how could you hate Steven Universe?


    On the other, a woman, Rebecca Sugar, created Steven Universe. There's probably some ridiculous double-standard involving this sort of thing, if it were to happen.
    so that's hotdiggedydemon being an asshole

    dammit, i enjoyed some of his cartoons...
  • edited 2014-07-04 06:08:24
    imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    well, looks like he took down the tweet and apologized, which is good

    still a shitty joke

    meanwhile Wikipedia appears to be in denial over the whole Page sexual harassment thing; that he was fired gets a brief mention in the Clarence article but references to the reasons for the firing get deleted
  • edited 2014-07-04 06:51:39
    Wikipedia is very sensitive to negative information about a living person that's not impeccably sourced.  Is there a major newspaper source, or other credible journalism?  No?  Then it isn't going to stay.  Blogs etc. are unlikely to be considered sufficiently solid for something like this.

    Specifically the policy says that accusations of criminal actions don't get covered unless there is a conviction, or, one presumes, the person themselves confesses.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    hm

    this seems like the kind of thing that shouldn't be too hard to cite reliably, though

    the talk page discussion suggests that mentions are being deleted due to a perceived lack of relevance, not due to a lack of available sources
  • The policy in question. I don't agree with how far they have gone since I stopped being involved with the project, but it says specifically:

    For people who are relatively unknown, editors must give serious consideration to not including material in any article suggesting that the person has committed, or is accused of committing, a crime unless a conviction is secured.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    well, far be it for me to argue with policy

    still, i feel like this is the kind of information i would want to have, if i were consulting the article from a position of ignorance
  • More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
    ^^ I agree with it. A charge is very different from a conviction.
  • Paranoia about libel, coupled with the constant drumbeat of people trying to smear people they don't like by editing their Wikipedia articles.

    Skyler Page isn't even deemed important enough to have an article about him, so Wikipedia's not likely to consider details of such allegations important enough to mention on the articles on his creations.

    (I personally think the "Notability" standards of Wikipedia are fucking awful, and the idiots who thought of them should be metaphorically shot.  Especially since it contributes to systemic bias since the people deciding what's Important Enough are generally from a pretty narrow demographic (native English-speaking young nerds, primarily male and white, from North America, Europe or Australasia).
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    What?

    Washing dishes is, like, the most relaxing thing on a mental level. 

    And on a physical level, you have weird prune hands, why would you combine that with sex?
  • Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    You're sexing yourself with a machine. Your hands have nothing to do with it.

    Also I find washing dishes frustrating slightly.
  • Odradek said:
    Sometimes Tumblr.txt is funny, most of the time it isn't. I get the feeling that the person who runs it is a dick, though.
  • can we stop acting like romantic love “”completes you”” as a person because i’m pretty sure aromantic people aren’t broken or incomplete



    Like, this. I fail to see the humor in this.
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    Tumblr dot txt is probably run by a bigot.
  • edited 2014-07-04 11:53:05
    “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    On the one hand, people who imply that aromantic people are "broken" are jerks, and this person may well be one of them; on the other hand, saying that your significant other completes you is not a shot across the bow, and by saying it is you are tacitly making everything about you.
  • edited 2014-07-04 11:56:24
    ^^Which is disappointing, because it really does do a good job highlighting how silly Tumblr is when you view it with even the slightest amount of detachment.

    ^You know, it occurs to me that people on Tumblr have a bad habit of making "everything about you" for people who waste so much energy saying that you shouldn't be offended by jokes about men/white people/cis people/heterosexual people because they're not about you. 

    (FYI I'm usually not offended by them, nor do I even dislike them, but I'm not a huge advocate for them either, mainly because so often it's about laziness with the subject of your joke rather than venting as is so often claimed)
  • Washing dishes is so repetitive and boring that it allows me to open my mind and think deeply about things. It's almost kind of nice.

    And just because it's happening to another part of the body doesn't mean it's still not happening. It's like making love to someone while your feet are submerged in tubs of Crisco. Without this being your fetish or your partner's fetish.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Kexruct said:

    ^You know, it occurs to me that people on Tumblr have a bad habit of making "everything about you" for people who waste so much energy saying that you shouldn't be offended by jokes about men/white people/cis people/heterosexual people because they're not about you. 

    (FYI I'm usually not offended by them, nor do I even dislike them, but I'm not a huge advocate for them either, mainly because so often it's about laziness with the subject of your joke rather than venting as is so often claimed)
    Absolutely.

    Sometimes it's not about you. They preach but they do not practice.
  • Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    I have never in my life ever considered that the Pokemon protagonists were white. I thought it was obvious.

    But then some folks on Tumblr surprised me by thinking that they were.
  • edited 2014-07-04 12:29:23
    Well, the fact that up until at least Gen IV all of the trainers had pretty western-sounding names didn't help. The only thing that would indicate they weren't white is the fact that the setting is loosely based on Japan, which isn't always obvious.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    White people often seem to assume anime protagonists are white... it's weird.
  • i guess i never really thought of the pokemon protagonists as being of any particular ethnicity, i just considered them to be little self insert dudes/ladies
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    Kexruct said:

    up until at least Gen IV all of the trainers had pretty western-sounding names

    like Satoshi? :p
  • kill living beings
    i only played ruby and i was way more concerned with the insane headgear than a name. seriously i don't know what's going on there even to this day
  • kill living beings
    well, his dad was "Norman", which is roughly the whitest name imaginable. "Senri" in the original i guess though
  • Well, in the English versions of the games at any rate. It makes sense that you wouldn't really internalize the fact that these characters are supposed to be Japanese(ish) when the version you're most familiar with has trainers with English names.
  • edited 2014-07-04 12:35:29

    Tachyon said:

    White people often seem to assume anime protagonists are white... it's weird.

    i think it's because the designs are so heavily stylized that their don't display any markers generally used to identify ethnicity, so it makes sense that people would project their own onto the characters
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    Yeah, probably.
  • Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    Seriously, there was a fan game or whatever that someone was selling as "actually having POC protagonists" or something like that.

    Incidentally have I mentioned how much I don't like the term "POC"?
  • Munch munch, chomp chomp...
    naney said:

    i guess i never really thought of the pokemon protagonists as being of any particular ethnicity, i just considered them to be little self insert dudes/ladies

    Same. But then I'm also white so it wasn't hard for me to imagine them as being white as well. And also Japanese, and so forth. I don't know, that was always like the last thing on my mind, compared to training a team.
  • edited 2014-07-04 12:41:53
    imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    Partially Oceanic Celtic

    Perfectly Ordinary Chinese

    Pan-Occidental Canadian
  • GODDURN FOREIGNERS
  • Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    Look at all these horrible things "POC" could stand for.

    Why would anyone use that shameful acronym?
  • Sup bitches, witches, Haters, and trolls.
    Odradek said:
    there's something ironic about the fact that they screenshot the original tumblr.txt entries thus making it less accessible (screenreaders, extra clicks because twitter's image interface cuts things off, etc.)
  • edited 2014-07-04 12:44:02
    ^^Because it sounds smart and it calls attention to itself. More than anything, I feel, there's a want for validation within teenage social justice people. Even if they deride "asking for pats on the back," they seem to want them really badly. That's why call out culture is such a prevalent thing; it's a really easy way to make yourself seem cool and smart and educated, and, most importantly, better than Them.
  • Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    Wait, what are you talking about again?
  • What I'm getting at is that POC is used because using acronyms makes you sound smart.
  • More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
    That twitter seems to present standard trans-person discourse as a source of humor. I will ignore this person and pretend they don't exist.
  • Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    Oh. Yea, I definitely get that.

    It's not only white-centric, it also sound like the 21st century was bringing back some 19th century lingo and co-opting it for some reason.

    I just don't understand.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    I think it's more likely an attempt at talking inclusively about non-white ethnic groups?

    It's clunky and has historical baggage attached.  It's not a term I'd be comfortable using.
  • edited 2014-07-04 12:50:29
    Nonwhite is a term, though. I think that's a pretty big reason why POC is preferred over it.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    Miko said:

    That twitter seems to present standard trans-person discourse as a source of humor. I will ignore this person and pretend they don't exist.

    That's tumblr.txt

    I'm not sure i understand the point in tumblr.txt.txt, unless it's just a cheap recursive joke.
  • Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    "Nonwhite" is better than "POC", I feel. But even then you shouldn't use either.
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