Like I know that Columbus was essentially Hitler With Some Boats, and was in fact criticized even in his day for his excessive cruelty toward native americans, but you know where I learned that?
Fucking Cracked.
That is depressing.
I talked to someone who had read Columbus's journal of his original voyage once.
Apparently it was all sentimental descriptions of birds, plants, and animals sandwiched in between horrific ideas for exploiting the natives.
You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
And here I live in a city named after the guy. -_-
well, we don't learn about him at all, or at least I didn't.
I've just always seen it written as "Amerigo".
It's possible there are different transliterations of the name, it's not unusual (eg. Frederik/Frederick/Friedrich for like a million dukes in Germany).
there's a lot of stuff named after a dude who was basically, again, Hitler With Some Boats.
most of that stuff should be renamed after someone else.
Like I'm fine with stuff being named after the founding fathers (at least in the USA), who were, by and large, at least alright for their day, and even if they weren't, almost anything is better than naming stuff after that asshole.
You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
Not to open a can of worms, but what about the República de Colombia?
If I lived there I wouldn't want to live in a country named after him either, but I don't know a lot about Colombia's history, so I can't come up with a better name off the top of my head.
The name "Colombia" is derived from the last name of Christopher Columbus (Italian: Cristoforo Colombo, Spanish: Cristóbal Colón). It was conceived by the Venezuelan revolutionary Francisco de Miranda as a reference to all the New World, but especially to those under the Spanish and Portuguese rule. The name was later adopted by the Republic of Colombia of 1819, formed out of the territories of the old Viceroyalty of New Granada (modern-day Colombia, Panama, Venezuela, Ecuador, and northwest Brazil).[21]
for the love of god spell it with the o. denizens of the columbia river stand by our colombian siblings, united against dumb spelling problems by you HORRIBLE OUTSIDERS
There is a significant amount of speculation as to whether or not Columbus was actually Genoese. In all likelihood he was originally Spanish or Catalan, with various tell-tale traits in his writing indicating that he may have been from a Jewish family. Given what was going on with the Inquisition, pretending to be Italian and converting was not a surprising move.
tbh it doesn't matter because he was an asshole and the only reason to care is if we're gonna blame somebody, and then if he does turn out to actually be Genoan, what do we do, blame Italy? That hardly seems fair.
I think it's just fascinating because of how little we actually know about the man. He is a historical enigma despite being one of the most significant and monstrous figures in the colonisation of the New World.
I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
Well, insofar as renaming things away from Columbus, Sony is basically a hair short of retiring the "Columbia Pictures" brand anyway; almost everything is "Sony Pictures" now
There's a (possibly apocryphal) story about Bolivar that says that one country gave him this huge cash wad after he got them their independence and he was all like 'meh, use it to free the slaves'
On the history classes thing: I think they're sloooowly getting better. Especially the higher level ones. In the area I live in at least. Even the rather mediocre history class I took this year pretty explicitly took an anti American Exceptionalist stance.
10th grade history class was pretty intense, but that was because it was AP Euro (the first AP class that our high school allowed students to take, which is stupid and dumb, but I digress) and that class had a reputation as the absolute scariest to keep up. For reference, out of the seven or eight honor students in that class, no one got an A, and that was after pouring sweat and blood into that class. It was stressful and heart-rending, but now I still have a loose idea about what happened between the Renaissance and the French Revolution, so yaaaaay.
11th and 12th were kind of rough, largely because of my teacher, who was actually a lawyer who didn't have plans to be teaching almost-adults, but things don't necessarily go as planned. Poor guy wasn't a bad person, but he was just not suited for education. He got better as time went by and flaming protests across the student body erupted, but man, those first few months were brutal.
He also had us watch Zeitgeist after the AP test, which is, in retrospect, a very questionable thing to show impressionable teens.
Hey, I took AP Euro! I already mentioned the details earlier.
I kind of breezed through the tests because I just sponged up everything said in class and really liked the teacher, but I never handed anything in. Because my guidance counsellor was being a twit, I missed the payment deadline for the test and had to take it the next year. Which I did, and got a 4 without studying.
I don't remember any characters from what I read in English that year (though the teacher was incredibly nice, I remember that), but I remember Otto von Bismarck.
Bismarck, Klaus von Metternick, Lorenzo de Medici, the Borgias, the Habsburgs, basically everyone in government during both World Wars - there are lots of them.
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Apparently it was all sentimental descriptions of birds, plants, and animals sandwiched in between horrific ideas for exploiting the natives.
Maybe to Amerigo, Ohio. Not that Amerigo Vespucci was a saint either, but he wasn't a mass-murderer as far as I'm aware.
cool great
I've just always seen it written as "Amerigo".
It's possible there are different transliterations of the name, it's not unusual (eg. Frederik/Frederick/Friedrich for like a million dukes in Germany).
there's a lot of stuff named after a dude who was basically, again, Hitler With Some Boats.
most of that stuff should be renamed after someone else.
Like I'm fine with stuff being named after the founding fathers (at least in the USA), who were, by and large, at least alright for their day, and even if they weren't, almost anything is better than naming stuff after that asshole.
If I lived there I wouldn't want to live in a country named after him either, but I don't know a lot about Colombia's history, so I can't come up with a better name off the top of my head.
i mean he WAS spanish
or genoan or whatever who knows with europe
Also, it's Colombia. The distinction is important.
nevermind.
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guns. Poems that wrestle cops into alleys
and take their weapons leaving them dead
holy shit dude tone it down a little.
Some people in my family have them, so it's not super foreign to me.
Assassin poems, Poems that shoot
guns. Poems that wrestle cops into alleys
and take their weapons leaving them dead
Assassin poems, Poems that shoot
guns. Poems that wrestle cops into alleys
and take their weapons leaving them dead
Assassin poems, Poems that shoot
guns. Poems that wrestle cops into alleys
and take their weapons leaving them dead
Assassin poems, Poems that shoot
guns. Poems that wrestle cops into alleys
and take their weapons leaving them dead
Assassin poems, Poems that shoot
guns. Poems that wrestle cops into alleys
and take their weapons leaving them dead
"Good" and "interesting" should not be conflated.
I believe he is also the king after whom the city of King-of-Prussia takes its name, though I may be mistaken.
Assassin poems, Poems that shoot
guns. Poems that wrestle cops into alleys
and take their weapons leaving them dead
But, still, he had an intense and really quite inexplicable hatred of the Polish, which shouldn't be discounted.
Assassin poems, Poems that shoot
guns. Poems that wrestle cops into alleys
and take their weapons leaving them dead