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  • kill living beings
    back in high school i got made fun of for being a future school shooter once cos i was depressive. people do not know how to handle mental illness and crime in a sensible way
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    My mom used to joke that if anyone were going into the school with a black duster and an assault rifle for how my sister and I were being treated, it would be her, and it wouldn't be the students or teachers who would have to worry.
  • kill living beings
    i just mean people are totally like "mental abnormality? spree killer lol"
  • i got made fun of like that

    but i think it was more because "wearing a trench coat all the time + industrial rock"
  • edited 2014-06-24 19:09:26
    For me it was mainly because I had a way of being treated like shit without complaining about it, believe it or not.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    I once got suspended for making a joking stabbing motion at another guy in study hall while imitating the strings from the shower scene in Psycho. Incidentally, I think he got a lunch detention or worse for provoking me in the first place. The one upshot is that the disciplinarian was quite candid in that while school rules said he had to write the suspension, he knew that I wasn't actually threatening the guy and that he was just doing his job.

    I liked most of the people who worked at my school. Some of the administrators were jerks, though, particularly high up.
  • (Emphasis on not complaining)
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”

    i got made fun of like that

    but i think it was more because "wearing a trench coat all the time + industrial rock"

    Oh! I also got suspended for refusing to take off my coat when the vice-principal told me point blank not to wear a coat in the hall. I thought that was stupid, and I had forgotten my locker combination anyway, so...

    That was way back in, like, sixth grade. Interesting times.
  • More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
    "DO NOT USE .CO.VU" is captioned with a tumblr.com url but redirects to a .co.vu url. I don't understand the .co.vu thing but I'm glad I use Linux and Firefox and Noscript and this seems like mischief by some young little ass.

    Also I hate serial killer characters, for many reasons, and Buffalo Bill having gender dysphoria does little to change my mind.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Wait, why do you hate serial killers in fiction?

    I mean, they're overused and frequently portrayed in horribly unrealistic terms and used as plot devices, and those are valid reasons to be wary of the trope, but not every story that includes such a character does that.
  • edited 2014-06-24 23:46:31
    More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
    I was typing a long, rambly post where I whined about my life but I decided not to. Basically, it encourages people to shun others and treat them badly by contributing to the idea that mental illness = murderousness. It tells us that those people belong in an asylum or a prison cell or anywhere that isn't with normal people, but I strongly disagree, because mentally ill people need other people, and they need help, and vilifying it is a cheap plot device in my opinion.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    I can understand that, but I think that such a character can be used without at all stigmatising the mentally ill. Consider how rare serial murderers are and how few are conventionally psychotic; consider further how few psychotic people are at all dangerous even to themselves. Such contrasts and distinctions can be drawn and drawn well.

    Not a serial killer example exactly, but it's worth noting that in The Caveman's Valentine, the main character is severely schizophrenic, yet sympathetic and acutely observant, while the murderer is completely sane and just kind of a creep.
  • More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
    Maybe I only said that because I saw a bunch of silly horror movies with a mentally ill serial killer as the movie's monster. It makes me roll my eyes at portrayals like that. *shrug* Of course I know what the reality is like, but I suspect that media has a bigger influence on popular consciousness than statistics.
  • Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    It's the worst. The worst.

    You ever see Indigo Prophecy? There's a bit where a police detective ends up in a mental ward to track a lead. And then the power cuts out for no reason and all the cell doors open, also for no reason. And then the patients slink out and lurk menacingly towards her, and she has to run to safety.

    Like, that's the worst, I feel. Making the mentally ill into near-literal zombies.
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022

    It's the worst. The worst.


    You ever see Indigo Prophecy? There's a bit where a police detective ends up in a mental ward to track a lead. And then the power cuts out for no reason and all the cell doors open, also for no reason. And then the patients slink out and lurk menacingly towards her, and she has to run to safety.

    Like, that's the worst, I feel. Making the mentally ill into near-literal zombies.
    oh god that scene -_-
  • i have never before heard of this thing
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Me neither.
  • edited 2014-06-25 00:00:00
    More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
    One of the nicest relationships I had growing up was a very short-lived one with a fellow mental patient. ^_^ That aside, mental ward crowds are surprisingly mundane.
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    I prefer to remember Indigo Prophecy as the game where this happened.

  • Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    All movie video games made by that guy are pretty much totally trash.
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat

    It's the worst. The worst.


    You ever see Indigo Prophecy? There's a bit where a police detective ends up in a mental ward to track a lead. And then the power cuts out for no reason and all the cell doors open, also for no reason. And then the patients slink out and lurk menacingly towards her, and she has to run to safety.

    Like, that's the worst, I feel. Making the mentally ill into near-literal zombies.
    oh god that scene -_-
    I'm surprised that you've even heard of it
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    I owned a copy of it, or at least I used to...
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    Never did finish it; kinda got bored halfway through
  • It's the worst. The worst.


    You ever see Indigo Prophecy? There's a bit where a police detective ends up in a mental ward to track a lead. And then the power cuts out for no reason and all the cell doors open, also for no reason. And then the patients slink out and lurk menacingly towards her, and she has to run to safety.

    Like, that's the worst, I feel. Making the mentally ill into near-literal zombies.
    There's a bit in Batman Arkham Asylum where a couple of actually mentally ill people (as opposed to the criminals who got transferred there from the local prison) are released, and they basically act like 'fast zombies' in your typical shooter.

    It's one of my least favorite parts of the game, right up there with literally everything that involves Poison Ivy
  • My dreams exceed my real life

    Never did finish it; kinda got bored halfway through

    It gets stupidly insane after that.
  • Oh, and Batman uses the same over-the-top takedown techniques that he uses for the regular criminals. 

    It's little things like that across the Batman games that make the story so painful to sit through at times.
  • further proof that nerds are lame and superheroes are hella garbage u_u
  • kill living beings
    hm, now i'm wondering about it. one of my fave stories has completely unrealistic serial murderers and suchlike but i like it anyway. crazy people too. i don't think it bothered me. maybe cos of all the magic shite overpowering any psychology.

    see Indigo Prophecy

    i lol'd
  • I suspect the biggest reason The Silence of the Lambs doesn't get more criticism is how goddamn old it is now.  It's 23 years old this year.  That's older than most of the young activists who'd be doing the complaining, and the older ones tend to be focused on deeper issues or burned out on it.
  • edited 2014-06-25 00:32:27
    Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.

    There's a bit in Batman Arkham Asylum where a couple of actually mentally ill people (as opposed to the criminals who got transferred there from the local prison) are released, and they basically act like 'fast zombies' in your typical shooter.


    It's one of my least favorite parts of the game, right up there with literally everything that involves Poison Ivy
    I've never finished Arkham Asylum. And I certainly never got to that part.

    So that's really bad too.
    Anonus said:

    I'm surprised that you've even heard of it

    I only know about it because of things like Heavy Rain.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    This is probably a predictable question from me, but how would you guys say the American McGee's Alice games compare wrt the portrayal of mental illness?  Again they play it for horror, but it's from the perspective of Alice who is herself mentally ill... I always liked that the insane children are non-antagonistic and at times helpful, at least.
  • Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    See, then that goes from "Antagonists are mentally ill" to "I am playing a mentally ill person". And trying to really capture what it's like to be mentally ill, that opens up a whole 'nother whooping can of worms.
  • geromykyle:

    do u ever just remember your friends have genitals and get weirded out for a second

    I have a friend who called this post sexual harassment.

    ?

    ????
  • edited 2014-06-25 20:20:23
    “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Thinking about that is weird. It's like it brings home all these weird truths that you generally don't consider and passively accept without recognising.

    I mean, wow. Accidental depth indeed.
  • Yeah exactly.

    She said that if she knew the thought of her genitals crossed someone's mind she'd feel violated. Which makes sense, superficially, but like intrusive thoughts happen.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Realising that someone you know has sex organs and thinking about that in the abstract with a total dearth of sexy feelings isn't a violation of the other person's privacy. It's an acknowledgement that they are human and probably have all kinds of stuff going on that isn't your business or anyone else's, and recognising that that is an OK thing, perhaps a universal thing.
  • Oh, FYI I sort of tested the waters about discussing this with said friend but she is not one to budge on the things that arbitrarily offend her and I don't really feel like incurring her anger.
  • kill living beings
    if i had friends, i bet at least one would be a castrato
  • edited 2014-06-25 20:37:54
    “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Person seems kind of irritating, to be honest.

    ^ Sometimes an absence is more to think about than a presence.
  • Sup bitches, witches, Haters, and trolls.
    how many castrati still even exist
  • There's an expression that basically says that some people are only your friends in high school because you deal with them every day. I'm getting the sneaking suspicion that's the case here.

    She's definitely not a bad person, and she's really funny in person, but she's also really mean, petty, and myopic. I'm sure she'll outgrow it but she is really irritating for the moment.
  • Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    Not thinking about people doing dirty, cheap, or kind deeds makes them more or less than human in your mind.

    Which I feel is probably dangerous.
  • edited 2014-06-25 20:42:57
    “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    ^^^ Of the original variety, none since the late eighteenth century or so; the last trained castrato, actually a consequence of illness, died in the early twentieth century.

    ^^ Meh. Unfollow her.
  • That would not pass without comment, trust me. She doesn't really annoy me anymore; she just kind of baffles, bemuses, and [whatever the word for what people think bemuses means is] me at this point.
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    You know what's kind of weird?

    When people I know IRL start spouting conservative bullshit on Facebook, I don't hesitate to unfriend them

    But when people I only know online start spouting SJW stuff on Tumblr, I'm always extremely worried about unfollowing them
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Because conservative bullshit is less justifiable.
  • Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    You lean to the "left", as it were.
  • Agreed with kingCrackers.  The thing is, most of the time the SJW people have gone down a path with good intentions but gone too far, and they'll generally get over the new-convert fervor within a few years and learn to think about it more critically and soberly. 

    Whereas at least my biased opinion is that fewer of the ones who get all conservative gain a clue later.  Now, that may just be my bias speaking.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Many do become better people in the end, but given the nature of conservative ideologies and how they tend to treat oppression and ignorance like good things...
  • Both have the flaw of encouraging echo-chambers and surrounding yourself only with people who buy into your ideology, though.  


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