Either way, I get what they're saying. The blurred line between personal opinion and reporting is troubling, as is its co-mingling with social media call-out culture. I do not disagree.
part of me is tempted to fakepost a contrarian Fred Phelps RIP post that would go over his early work as a civil rights lawyer and include comments about white gay racism and about him being the only one willing to say the truth about "the troops" but that would be ridiculously bad form
the one thing I find weird about nicki minaj and tumblr is that I feel like having a song called "stupid hoe" would be way more looked down upon from anyone else
You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
the-rigs: Fred Phelps has died. Fred Rogers would pray for his soul.
Nasty in the sense that it seemed like it was trying to be satirical and edgy but was really just using the stereotypes in an entirely unchallenging way. That said, those comics were from like ten years ago so I don't have any doubt that he's changed since then.
looks like he made a bunch of offensive comics under the 'Team Special Olympics' name
i think he did fuck up with the race thing in Homestuck, as well; it's pretty obvious he initially intended the kids to be white or at least light-skinned (there are references to them being pink in the comic) and changed his mind about it later
which imo isn't really racist, just unfortunate; it's not racist to depict white people, nor is it racist to make race-neutral characters
the problem is that he changed his mind mid-way and pretended otherwise, like he's passing his comic off as more progressive than it is
the suggestion that it's problematic for a character in his comic to speak with (the twitter version of) AAVE strikes me as problematic in itself
i think he did fuck up with the race thing in Homestuck, as well; it's pretty obvious he initially intended the kids to be white or at least light-skinned (there are references to them being pink in the comic) and changed his mind about it later
He said that it was his intention from the beginning but he didn't start taking it seriously until the comic started picking up steam.
Considering the fact that his orange-skinned author avatar first appears in Act 3 suggests to me that he's telling the truth.
off the top of my head, we got a reference to Bro being white, a reference to the baby versions of the kids being pink, and John's decended from a racist Southern colonel who looks like Mark Twain
@Tachyon That one did, yes. I think the accusations are mostly silly as they relate to MSPA, and I do think human beings can change. As for being ashamed of the old comics, I hope so.
looks like he made a bunch of offensive comics under the 'Team Special Olympics' name
i think he did fuck up with the race thing in Homestuck, as well; it's pretty obvious he initially intended the kids to be white or at least light-skinned (there are references to them being pink in the comic) and changed his mind about it later
which imo isn't really racist, just unfortunate; it's not racist to depict white people, nor is it racist to make race-neutral characters
the problem is that he changed his mind mid-way and pretended otherwise, like he's passing his comic off as more progressive than it is
the suggestion that it's problematic for a character in his comic to speak with (the twitter version of) AAVE strikes me as problematic in itself
i do think part of the problem is he's used to writing for a particular audience (who favour the kind of crude, no-fucks-given humour associated w/ 4chan, SA, Penny Arcade, etc.) and he's had problems adjusting to his current tumblr audience, which, let's be fair, is just a wee bit oversensitive about absolutely everything
i'm not accusing him of being racist (although those old comics were pretty racist). i'm just saying he could have handled the issue better, and i don't think he's been completely honest about it.
Because i think he's changed his mind and, without giving it much thought, decided 'oh well, this comic is race-neutral so far'... which it isn't, as evidenced by the controversial reference to Bro as a 'white rapper'
i don't know why he doesn't be more honest about it, but it's obvious he's not being honest
It doesn't make sense though for someone who's always been remarkably upfront about his work to lie for the sake of a group of people he makes a point of poking fun at.
It makes a lot more sense that it was just something that he tripped up on a few times.
Again, it would have been better if he just said 'death of the author, now stop bugging fan artists'. People could draw black Lalonde/Strider without getting sass all up in their biz, and there wouldn't have been the nonsense that led to that infuriating CAUCASIAN joke.
i do think part of the problem is he's used to writing for a particular audience (who favour the kind of crude, no-fucks-given humour associated w/ 4chan, SA, Penny Arcade, etc.) and he's had problems adjusting to his current tumblr audience, which, let's be fair, is just a wee bit oversensitive about absolutely everything
or take the insistance that March Eridan is transphobic
or go back through the thread; we've had people trying to bully a celebrity off tumblr because she made a joke about Justin Bieber's 'vagina', we've had otherkin who are mortally offended if their identification is not treated with the same seriousness as transgender identities, we've had someone demanding that pictures of cooked meat should be tagged with a trigger warning for graphic imagery...
To be fair, if otherkin were an actual thing, which I'd assume is the pretense they're operating under, then they'd have every right to treat it as if it were on the level of a transgender identity. That's begging a pretty big question though.
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this is the beginning, sorry about that
not that a Nicki Minaj obsession needs any further justification
although that doesn't have much to do with Andrew
to me the accusations always seemed rather silly
the whole person in drag = transmisogyny thing is so weird
i had no idea.
looks like he made a bunch of offensive comics under the 'Team Special Olympics' name
i think he did fuck up with the race thing in Homestuck, as well; it's pretty obvious he initially intended the kids to be white or at least light-skinned (there are references to them being pink in the comic) and changed his mind about it later
which imo isn't really racist, just unfortunate; it's not racist to depict white people, nor is it racist to make race-neutral characters
the problem is that he changed his mind mid-way and pretended otherwise, like he's passing his comic off as more progressive than it is
the suggestion that it's problematic for a character in his comic to speak with (the twitter version of) AAVE strikes me as problematic in itself
off the top of my head, we got a reference to Bro being white, a reference to the baby versions of the kids being pink, and John's decended from a racist Southern colonel who looks like Mark Twain
i think he changed his mind and backtracked
^ yeah, having seen the comics in question, they really were bad
Assassin poems, Poems that shoot
guns. Poems that wrestle cops into alleys
and take their weapons leaving them dead
probably something to do with the growth of the Internet and shifting user demographics
the transition from being popular among privileged nerds and being popular with a wider audience is not necessarily a smooth one
i don't know why he doesn't be more honest about it, but it's obvious he's not being honest
Assassin poems, Poems that shoot
guns. Poems that wrestle cops into alleys
and take their weapons leaving them dead
Assassin poems, Poems that shoot
guns. Poems that wrestle cops into alleys
and take their weapons leaving them dead
There are valid reasons to complain and there are valid reasons to be offended, but as a community tumblr is abnormally sensitive.
Define sensitive.
the suggestion that it's racist for Andrew to depict a character who speaks using AAVE
or go back through the thread; we've had people trying to bully a celebrity off tumblr because she made a joke about Justin Bieber's 'vagina', we've had otherkin who are mortally offended if their identification is not treated with the same seriousness as transgender identities, we've had someone demanding that pictures of cooked meat should be tagged with a trigger warning for graphic imagery...
Assassin poems, Poems that shoot
guns. Poems that wrestle cops into alleys
and take their weapons leaving them dead
Just found it more stupid and unnecessary than particularly racist. Troll Nicki Minaj didn't strike me as something that everyone was calling.for.
Could call it generally racist, or problematix. Black speech given to two of the more amoral characters in the comic? Something to question.
Assassin poems, Poems that shoot
guns. Poems that wrestle cops into alleys
and take their weapons leaving them dead