also is this referencing the 'love of wisdom' thing that pops up in introductions to philosophy a lot?
i think people resort to etymologies because it's very difficult to supply a singular definition that exclusively encompasses all branches of the discipline, maybe? but that's true of a lot of things
In retrospect, the whole telos of eros argument wasn't so much pretentious as it was reductive and stupid. Reward systems do not have one function alone, and trying to apply elementary school logic to them inevitably leads to problems. Sex in particular, depending on the species, serves a whole host of purposes, none of which are likely conscious to begin with because the average animal is likely just thinking, "This seems fun."
Which I guess makes it a different sort of pretentious.
In retrospect, the whole telos of eros argument wasn't so much pretentious as it was reductive and stupid. Reward systems do not have one function alone, and trying to apply elementary school logic to them inevitably leads to problems. Sex in particular, depending on the species, serves a whole host of purposes, none of which are likely conscious to begin with because the average animal is likely just thinking, "This seems fun."
Which I guess makes it a different sort of pretentious.
I digress. Dead horse.
it's an incredibly common reductive and stupid argument dressed up by saying it in greek instead, which is pretty pretentious imo
In retrospect, the whole telos of eros argument wasn't so much pretentious as it was reductive and stupid. Reward systems do not have one function alone, and trying to apply elementary school logic to them inevitably leads to problems. Sex in particular, depending on the species, serves a whole host of purposes, none of which are likely conscious to begin with because the average animal is likely just thinking, "This seems fun."
Which I guess makes it a different sort of pretentious.
I digress. Dead horse.
it's an incredibly common reductive and stupid argument dressed up by saying it in greek instead, which is pretty pretentious imo
Oh, indeed.
Granted, it's at least short and sweet and uses terms with very specific definitions that can be dealt with on their own terms, but that almost makes it more annoying, because it's hard to say whether they're being used for what they mean and their brevity or because they sound smart.
It does allow a simple retort, though: "A telos of eros is reproduction. Particles, dear boy."
i was like what are there fuckin telos particles somewhere? am i living in xenosaga now?
In grammar, a particle is a part of speech that is not grammatically inflected. In English, the definite article is indeed a particle, although the indefinite is technically inflected in a wishy-washy way ("a" versus "some") so I was only half-right.
@Tre: Wittgenstein argued that all philosophical questions stemmed from inherent ambiguities in and limitations to language as a means of communication. Thus, my joke and Myr's.
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aside from psukhe
i thought it was psyche
but whatever, close enough
geometry, or land-measuring
i think people resort to etymologies because it's very difficult to supply a singular definition that exclusively encompasses all branches of the discipline, maybe? but that's true of a lot of things
Which I guess makes it a different sort of pretentious.
I digress. Dead horse.
Oh, indeed.
Granted, it's at least short and sweet and uses terms with very specific definitions that can be dealt with on their own terms, but that almost makes it more annoying, because it's hard to say whether they're being used for what they mean and their brevity or because they sound smart.
It does allow a simple retort, though: "A telos of eros is reproduction. Particles, dear boy."
the wording was new and that's what people found funny, but the argument itself is a very common bit of homophobic reasoning
Hm?
or maybe i'm reading him wrong
Do you mean the part of speech? "a" and "the" aren't particles, they're articles.
...I screwed up. So it goes. They're a letter away from each other.
i was like what are there fuckin telos particles somewhere? am i living in xenosaga now?
In grammar, a particle is a part of speech that is not grammatically inflected. In English, the definite article is indeed a particle, although the indefinite is technically inflected in a wishy-washy way ("a" versus "some") so I was only half-right.
and how does this relate to the gnosis
(i know what a particle is. a bit. more in japanese grammar than english.)