YOU WILL NEVER MAKE A CUTTING-EDGE SERIES EVERYONE WILL LOVE.

Viani · 2012-02-12 01:17:14

Those little story notes, storyboards, character bios and story grids you write in your free time? You aren't going to do anything with them.

You aren't doing anything with them now.

You can aim to be an animator or a producer of one of your favorite projects you want to see hit the big screen, delivering a whole universe of fantasy, science-fiction, or whatever you desired, and have your artwork and story revolutionize the entire industry in the process...

But that's going to take a lot of money, and a lot of time, and a lot of networking, a lot of heart-break, comprimises, rewrites, property right relinquishment, dropped premises, rewritten characters, executive cock-sucking and general disappointment. Running away to another country won't help you escape from this either. Your beloved work will be driven into the dust and forgotten when more marketable ideas come marching in, and the producers you wish to help you will take them, every time.

You will save all of your projects in their own folder, building them up, daydreaming about different climaxes and twists to add while listening to your iPod.

But it's all just a glorified daydream.

You will never make a cutting edge series everyone will love.

If you do want to make something like that...you are going to have to try harder than you are now.

Obā-san · 2012-02-12 01:18:01

And?

Tachyon · 2012-02-12 01:20:06

Presumptuous.

Obā-san · 2012-02-12 01:22:01

And I can't find my iPod. :/

Bunny · 2012-02-12 01:22:56

Yet somehow, life goes on.

Tre · 2012-02-12 01:23:57

Nonsense! Not everyone will love Stuck, nor will it be cutting edge!

But the cool kids will love it.

DickGrabrod · 2012-02-12 01:25:12

Copypasta?

Viani · 2012-02-12 01:25:57

^ Yes.

Its one of those "weeaboos on deviantart churning out OCs for an anime series" troll speeches

Tre · 2012-02-12 01:26:26

Uh huh.

Viani · 2012-02-12 01:27:16

Stuck?

Tre · 2012-02-12 01:29:40

Stuck: n. A series of novels written by Tre LaBleep under the pen name Lyle Terry.

Basically.

Viani · 2012-02-12 01:32:01

what are the novels about i meant.

Tre · 2012-02-12 01:34:56

A sort-of author avatar of me gets stuck in a mall and funky shit goes down when he gets caught up in the war between the kids living in the mall and the psycho night guard.

And the other two books are what happens after that.

Viani · 2012-02-12 01:35:49

So its kind of like an indie Scott Pilgrimesque Canadianovella or something?

Tre · 2012-02-12 01:38:37

Yeah.

Except for all the Americanness.

Salix Babylonika · 2012-02-12 01:46:56

Wait, Tre wrote Stuck?

Huh.

oh by the way:

I consider "on SmackJeeves" to be published.

so nyeh.

DickGrabrod · 2012-02-12 02:18:59

"Now, if it's possible to showcase your idea live or on the Internet, then for God's sake do that before you even think of letting anyone in telly get their hands on it. If it succeeds, they'll beat a path to your door."

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Mr_W · 2012-02-12 13:30:28

Frankly, this statement is too true.

I'm not sure whether or not any of my projects will get off the ground. The closest one to get started was a webcomic about Edgar Allan Poe, but there's been a serious lack of communication between me and the main writer about it.

Either it's school, family or just plain laziness, there's always an obstacle.

It's a bit sad, really.

lee4hmz · 2012-02-13 00:38:38

Regarding what the copypasta says: Yeah, it's true that weeaboos on dA won't get very far in anime. For one thing, anime is about as Japanese as it gets, and Japan is notoriously insular when it comes to mass media, so if you're not Japanese, you're already fighting a losing battle. (They even made fun of this in Excel Saga, which is from 1998 and thus predates the 2000s anime boom by years.)

Besides that, quite a bit of the stuff on dA is fan art, and fan art has to work within the confines of the original work. Coming into your own means being creative, and being creative means making up your own characters and building your own worlds. While it's OK to borrow concepts from other places (art wouldn't exist without inspiration), doing what Chris-chan did and swiping characters and plots verbatim won't work.

Salix Babylonika · 2012-02-13 00:42:35

I don't understand how people can want to make an anime rather than a cartoon when there is little functional difference. Can you not just make a cartoon that is more or less an anime except for its country of origin?

Also animation is hard, make a comic instead. It's easier, and less prone to being fucked with by outside influences.

Also also, why is everyone who likes anime a "weaboo" now? It's a very annoying term.

I also resent that fanart necessarily means the artist making it has neither talent nor creativity. Ossan (who does my comic) does fanart also. :/

lee4hmz · 2012-02-13 00:48:11

Eh, I was being a little coarse for the sake of being coarse. :/ Really, the whole "weeaboo" thing applies more to the obsessed fans who think Japan can do no wrong, rather than the more casual fans, and even then it's an ancient meme now anyway (it dates back to early 2005).

As for making an animesque cartoon: Because Japan is clearly superior I guess they're afraid of not being taken seriously by the "Glorious Japan" types because they're not Japanese? It's stupid, I think, and the Europeans have been doing it for years.

And yeah, comics are way easier. All you really need is a decent pen, paper, a ruler, and a $50 HP scanner from Walmart. Assuming you don't draw everything on the computer, anyway.

Salix Babylonika · 2012-02-13 00:53:07

I've honestly never met one of these GLORIOUS NIPPON people.

I hear stories about them all the time, how they wear Naruto headbands to school and act all socially awkward and stalk girls who they think look like their favorite animu characters. I've heard that they fap to lolicon all day in lieu of getting a job, I've heard they like to speak massacred Japanese to their friends, who are also exactly like them. I've heard they all dream of moving to Japan and making an anime with their favorite directors.

I have heard all of this, and never met a single one of these people. I am beginning to think that they don't exist.

I know a lot of people, that's not a boast, it's a simple fact. On an at least acquaintance level, I know quite a few folks. Of those folks, many are anime fans. Of those anime fans, some can be quite annoying. One or two will even insist that anime is an art form above all others. But to be perfectly honest, I've never encountered a single person who fits all of these stereotypes. I kind of find it hard to believe that anyone could without having some sort of mental impairment. I know plenty of socially awkward people, some to an extreme extent, but none of them are anime fans. In fact, the biggest example is a sports maniac.

I have no idea why I'm going on about this, but I guess it bothers me a little.

I also find it very paradoxical that there's apparently legions of these people who hang out together, but they're also somehow all antisocial and will never have any friends. When, they clearly do

Viani · 2012-02-13 01:11:36

Of course you wouldn't meet somebody like that, because those exaggerations of a human being are so hyperbolic that the chances of meeting one is about the same as meeting a twice-reborn morbidly obese indian Vietnamese quadriplegic homophobic lesbian broad who cuts herself.

Plus anime isn't popular enough to merit enough of a population of said people in america beyond ...well maybe 20,000 or whatever out of the something million people in america.

In other words...the chances of you meeting one of these crazy sociopathic White Nipponese anime veterans is very small, especially when they are trying to avoid people like you...non-females.

I also resent that fanart necessarily means the artist making it has
neither talent nor creativity. Ossan (who does my comic) does fanart
also. :/

<butthurt_fanartist>
That isn't true...
</butthurt_fanartist>

lee4hmz · 2012-02-13 10:28:05

Oh, there's nothing wrong with fan art per se, it's just that some people never really move on from it, and I think that holds them back somewhat. I've seen fan art from a number of fandoms, and the best of it is from people who do other stuff as well. Whereas some of the worst comes from people notorious for having one-track minds (again, Chris-chan comes to mind).

Imipolex G · 2012-02-13 11:29:35

This is why I write novels instead. It's also probably futile, but at least I won't be called a weeaboo.

Justice4243 · 2012-02-13 14:56:22

Also also, why
is everyone who likes anime a "weaboo" now? It's a very annoying term.

I was called a "fellow weaboo" a couple years ago because I was walking the streets of Portland (I think, might have been Seattle) wearing my Evangelion T-shirt and long-sleeved Chines style, Dragon Shirt over it.

The guy obviously meant well, but I was put off. However, he didn't really look like a japanophile to me and it looked like he was out with his girl friend, so self identifying weaboo or not, this guy didn't seem too extreme on that spectrum.

I think it's how Otaku originally had such a negative connotation, but nerds eventually started self-identifying to the point where the original word lost a great deal of relevance and became a vaguer term for "big anime fan".

how they wear
Naruto headbands to school

I've seen this, it ain't pretty.

I've also seen a dude wearing cat ears and hauling a Hellsing bag around (not that there's anything wrong with the later part).

There certainly exist those who override common fashion sense by overly committing to their love of the medium.

Obā-san · 2012-02-13 15:18:01

I used to have cat ears on my headphones.

Mr_W · 2012-02-13 15:18:23

I saw those Naruto headbands a lot of times in middle school, when it was really damned popular. It makes about as much sense as Halo fans wearing Master Chief helmets everyday.

I also have a friend who has the same "wants to work in anime"-type pipe dream. I keep telling him how unrealistic that is, but he never listens.

Salix Babylonika · 2012-02-13 15:28:43

It makes about as much sense as Halo fans wearing Master Chief Spartan IV helmets everyday.

This is an amazing idea and should be begun immediately.

Also ftfy.

Justice4243 · 2012-02-13 15:33:55

"I used to have cat ears on my headphones."

Yes, but how publicly did you display them?

I should probably add that this man did not have the figure to pull off the "cat-boy" look, at all.

Mr_W · 2012-02-13 15:34:01

Sorry, I've only played the multiplayer of Halo at parties.

Salix Babylonika · 2012-02-13 15:36:08

I don't think there's much wrong with novelty headphones.

Sorry, I've only played the multiplayer of Halo at parties.

I was not actually upset at you.

And technically speaking it's actually MJOLNIR IV, but no one can pronounce that because lolnorse.

Obā-san · 2012-02-13 15:37:11

You should hop on over to BTL and ask Anne.

Salix Babylonika · 2012-02-13 15:37:55

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

you're funny.

Mr_W · 2012-02-13 15:41:38

Also, I should note that there's nothing wrong with wearing merch of your favorite anime/game/movie/etc., unless they look like they belong more at an anime convention or a Halloween outing. Then they're just making a scene of themselves.

^^Is that place basically the equivalent of a viper pit like I heard?

Salix Babylonika · 2012-02-13 15:42:46

I know people who are perfectly capable of doing that without any media merch at all.

Looking at you, guy with the pink Mohawk and a doorknocker hanging out of his nose.

Obā-san · 2012-02-13 15:52:30

^^Nah, it's more like a basket of grumpy kittens.

It may give you some lacerations, but it's not fatal, and their cute to watch.

Justice4243 · 2012-02-13 15:52:49

Anime merch is fine. I have lots of t-shirts. I even have a Hellsing bag (but it's at least 20% cooler than that person's I mentioned). Though, I stick all my MtG cards in it, so I'm rarely seen in public with it unless I can be bothered to go to a draft.

I'm OK with the obvious nerds going out in groups all nerded out to the nines as long as it's a bit short of cosplay.

Something like Spain mentioned happened to me with a group of girls who all had pink hair and they had one boy in tow with a Zelda hat.

Might have helped that I was alone with Lain and all the girls where like "OMG! BABY!".

Also, it helped that they where girls and reasonably cute.

Why yes, I do have double-standards when it comes to gender and physical attractiveness! Thanks for asking!

Salix Babylonika · 2012-02-13 15:56:54

You act like people don't wear Zelda hats all the time.

Mr_W · 2012-02-13 16:02:50

People have been wearing Link hats for a looong time. 'Cept they're not normally called Link hats.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phrygian_cap

Justice4243 · 2012-02-13 16:23:37

^^ I think you missed an important detail if the "Zelda hat" was the key take-away you got.

I suppose I could add the the girls where definitely the bubbly, "genki-girl" types.

Also, this was a butchers, so they where there to get their carnivore on.

PlutoniumFist · 2012-02-13 16:32:58

I CAN make a series with lots of cutting, however.

Justice4243 · 2012-02-13 16:48:14

Viani · 2012-02-13 17:08:55

It makes about as much sense as Halo fans wearing Master Chief Spartan IV helmets everyday.

This is an amazing idea and should be begun immediately.

Also ftfy.

NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERD

Speaking of which, nerd fashion catches on a lot in high-school settings solely on who wears it. Naruto headbands were uncommon but never a "YO what the fuck" thing since the majority of people who existed knew that Naruto was "that cartoon about ninjas" and just kind of ignored it since there were more shocking things around, like the Scene Girls/Boys Culture that spawned during the 2006 era and decided to go OVERTHETOP.MOV with the rainbows, hairbows/extensions, blatantly "gay" demeanor etc.

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