Markus "Notch" Persson is a gator

Hexartes · 2016-03-07 16:00:13

https://mobile.twitter.com/notch/status/704828353627295744

This hurts me in a unique way

Odradek · 2016-03-07 16:00:39

And then the next day he claimed he was trolling and not a gator

Odradek · 2016-03-07 16:00:53

I think he's just a jackass

Hexartes · 2016-03-07 16:06:14

If not an actual gator he certainly has the gator mindset. Dammit.

Odradek · 2016-03-07 16:10:20

Yes, I am sad too

Crystal · 2016-03-07 16:14:24

It certainly isn't preferable. My sympathies.

Salix Babylonika · 2016-03-07 16:30:05

Baldanders said:
And then the next day he claimed he was trolling and not a gator

actually the next day he specifically claimed he was an SJW and asked all of his GG followers to unfollow

Markus "Notch" Persson is a weirdo.

Alduin · 2016-03-07 16:41:38

Man I just wanted to build shit in a cool game.

lee4hmz · 2016-03-07 16:42:50

While Notch himself may be hard to read, it does seem like a lot of bro-y types play Minecraft, which is odd because you wouldn't think it'd attract the Gears of War/Call of Duty set.

Crystal · 2016-03-07 16:48:31

I dunno, building stuff is, like, really fun. I could see anyone getting behind that.

Only reason I didn't, even when finding out it was cheap (and/or free for a time?), is because I loathe the art style.

Fossilmaiden · 2016-03-07 16:52:19

From what I've seen, Notch is just a very very bored billionaire with nothing to do.

lee4hmz · 2016-03-07 17:08:31

My niece loves Minecraft, so it pains me to see Notch saying dumb shit like this.

Obā-san · 2016-03-07 17:22:16

Fossilmaiden said:
From what I've seen, Notch is just a very very bored billionaire with nothing to do.

yeah, mostly he seems like he's having a bad time

i feel sorry for him

Obā-san · 2016-03-07 17:27:46

http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2015-07/notch-net-worth-isolation-twitter-outburst

Calica · 2016-03-07 17:28:20

notch is as bad at ethics as he is at java

Salix Babylonika · 2016-03-07 17:29:52

that is very sad

Aliroz · 2016-03-07 17:29:59

...

Gator?

I thought we liked alligators.

Salix Babylonika · 2016-03-07 17:30:32

no it is a euphemism for GamerGater

which there is no reason to use here, because this is a private website.

Tachyon · 2016-03-07 17:32:29

oh is that why people say it?

i've just been saying it because it's shorter, and kind of funny

Salix Babylonika · 2016-03-07 17:33:58

it's harder to reverse-search on twitter, that is why people say it yes.

Because if you just say "GamerGater" on twitter people will come out of the woodwork and DM you pictures of corpses and other pleasant things.

Tachyon · 2016-03-07 17:35:36

that is not even slightly surprising, admittedly

Yarrun XIX · 2016-03-07 17:40:00

If only Notch was a literal alligator. That would solve everything

Sredni Vashtar · 2016-03-07 21:12:19

Jane said:
no it is a euphemism for GamerGater

which there is no reason to use here, because this is a private website.

I always capitalise it to make the distinction clear here, although there is also a Florida sports team with that name, I think football but I could be wrong. Mainly I use it out of a combination of snarky derision and residual paranoia, sort of like how I've gotten behind John Oliver's "Make Donald Drumpf Again" campaign.

Sredni Vashtar · 2016-03-07 21:31:26

All told, I feel kind of bad for Persson in a weird way. It's like what Phil Oakey of The Human League said about hitting Number One: You're stunned, and suddenly everyone knows who you are, but you don't have any real connection to your "fans" anymore, because there's no investment. You're huge, so who cares. And being so rich that you have nothing to do is boring as fuck, particularly when your money came from doing something creative and technical that you did out of love.

Section42L · 2016-03-07 21:47:35

I also suspect that everything he had to put up after Minecraft became a massive phenomenon burnt him out to an extent that he is now psychologically incapable of doing anything creative and technical to the extent that he once could, which I'm sure only exasperates his depression.

Tre · 2016-03-07 21:49:22

The Florida Gators are a university athletic team and thus play most sports

glennmagusharvey · 2016-03-07 23:11:52

why not just spell it "Gater"?

Fossilmaiden · 2016-03-07 23:20:56

glennmagusharvey said:
why not just spell it "Gater"?

Because how many other contexts is that going to be used in?

glennmagusharvey · 2016-03-07 23:25:26

Fossilmaiden said:

glennmagusharvey said:
why not just spell it "Gater"?
Because how many other contexts is that going to be used in?

what?

I dunno; I'm just proposing an intuitive and reasonable-seeming alternative that is an improvement over the current state of affairs

Princess Alice · 2016-03-07 23:27:12

glennmagusharvey said:

Fossilmaiden said:

glennmagusharvey said:
why not just spell it "Gater"?
Because how many other contexts is that going to be used in?
what?

I dunno; I'm just proposing an intuitive and reasonable-seeming alternative that is an improvement over the current state of affairs

And completely missing the point of "gator" in the process.

glennmagusharvey · 2016-03-08 02:31:19

CentralAvenue said:

glennmagusharvey said:

Fossilmaiden said:

glennmagusharvey said:
why not just spell it "Gater"?
Because how many other contexts is that going to be used in?
what?

I dunno; I'm just proposing an intuitive and reasonable-seeming alternative that is an improvement over the current state of affairs
And completely missing the point of "gator" in the process.

okay, i'll bite; what's the point of "gator"?

Yarrun XIX · 2016-03-08 02:32:06

Jane said:
it's harder to reverse-search on twitter, that is why people say it yes.

Because if you just say "GamerGater" on twitter people will come out of the woodwork and DM you pictures of corpses and other pleasant things.

Hexartes · 2016-03-08 05:13:30

Sredni Vashtar said:
All told, I feel kind of bad for Persson in a weird way. It's like what Phil Oakey of The Human League said about hitting Number One: You're stunned, and suddenly everyone knows who you are, but you don't have any real connection to your "fans" anymore, because there's no investment. You're huge, so who cares. And being so rich that you have nothing to do is boring as fuck, particularly when your money came from doing something creative and technical that you did out of love.

Same, very much same

I learned about the GG thing after I was thoroughly sympathetic to the guy

It's why this hurts me in a unique way

Tachyon · 2016-03-08 05:16:00

i kind of wonder if he wasn't just trying to get everyone invested in the debate in any way to unfollow him

well, whatever, i don't think these opinions are expressed in his work in any way

Calica · 2016-03-08 05:18:06

Tachyon said:
i kind of wonder if he wasn't just trying to get everyone invested in the debate in any way to unfollow him

well, whatever, i don't think these opinions are expressed in his work in any way

he doesn't have anything to do with minecraft anymore anyways and had basically stepped away even before selling to microsoft

Section42L · 2016-03-08 05:42:37

Tachyon said:
i kind of wonder if he wasn't just trying to get everyone invested in the debate in any way to unfollow him

This is pretty much it from what I can gather.

glennmagusharvey · 2016-03-08 17:01:03

Yarrun XIX said:

Jane said:
it's harder to reverse-search on twitter, that is why people say it yes.

Because if you just say "GamerGater" on twitter people will come out of the woodwork and DM you pictures of corpses and other pleasant things.

oh that

well it's unfair to the alligators

now i wonder if there are any gamergaters who are willing to say "i'm willing to have feminazi types take over my gaming experience if that will result in the preservation of wetlands"

probably none

so fuck them until they say that

#priorities #flamebait #crossingthestreams #expandingtheargument

Princess Alice · 2016-03-08 17:53:32

Local Man's Sense of Humor Confounds Princess, details at 11

glennmagusharvey · 2016-03-08 18:02:55

CentralAvenue said:
Local Man's Sense of Humor Confounds Princess, details at 11

It does nothing to help calm a situation and basically makes things worse, so it should almost never be practiced in real life, but there is something gratifying in a cathartic (albeit chaotic) way for a conflict to blow up and become a grand conflagration with fighters on all sides duking it out in spectacular fashion, complete with flashy moves, dramatic music, and stinging zingers.

Expanding the conflagration by bringing in allies and enemies from another conflict just serves to make it grander. And worse, from a real-life practical perspective, but since we're already dreaming of the excitement of battle, why the hell not?

Sredni Vashtar · 2016-03-08 20:55:04

Kexruct said:

Sredni Vashtar said:
All told, I feel kind of bad for Persson in a weird way. It's like what Phil Oakey of The Human League said about hitting Number One: You're stunned, and suddenly everyone knows who you are, but you don't have any real connection to your "fans" anymore, because there's no investment. You're huge, so who cares. And being so rich that you have nothing to do is boring as fuck, particularly when your money came from doing something creative and technical that you did out of love.
Same, very much same

I learned about the GG thing after I was thoroughly sympathetic to the guy

It's why this hurts me in a unique way

Again:

Tachyon said:
i kind of wonder if he wasn't just trying to get everyone invested in the debate in any way to unfollow him

Pretty sure it's this.

Hexartes · 2016-03-08 21:01:57

EEEEEH

As someone who has been following this intensely since its beginning and has done a decent amount of research onto the man himself I can assure you that's not very likely

It's not like I'm wanting to dislike the guy

Klinotaxis · 2016-03-08 21:08:29

option two there is still a pretty unpleasant way to treat people

Hexartes · 2016-03-08 21:13:53

Exactly! And it's still very much the kind of thing a reactionary would do

Obā-san · 2016-03-08 22:43:32

if that's the kind of thing a reactionary would do then I guess "reactionary" is nowhere near as damning a term as it once was

Odradek · 2016-03-08 22:46:26

#RedpilledByMoldbug

Hexartes · 2016-03-08 22:47:59

Okay well its *not nice* in a way very familiar to me insofar as it is *not nice* in such a manner that reactionary groups like GamerGate, or people on the fringes of those groups frequently are

Is that specific enough

Do I retain my right to use the word "reactionary"

Crystal · 2016-03-08 22:49:40

I'd personally just call him much more conservative, or what-have-you, than use the term outright, buuuuut I get your point. So shrug.

Obā-san · 2016-03-08 22:52:37

your specificity is appreciated, but I'm less than enthused with your statement

Hexartes · 2016-03-08 22:53:00

It is a thing he do that bad people do

I figured that was obvious and I really don't care for being talked down to

Hexartes · 2016-03-08 22:57:40

Like okay! I'm well aware he is reacting to the pressures of sudden fame! And I'm entirely sympathetic to that regardless. And either way, it's not like I'm going to reblog a Notch call out post or even really say anything about it other than privately. I'm disappointed, not angry. I think that regardless of why he's doing it, he's still (essentially) throwing in with the biggest blight on the game industry and one of the most repugnant things I've had to witness and deal with personally and I'm so, so unhappy about that and I wish things were different.

Is *that* allowed?

Klinotaxis · 2016-03-08 22:58:56

reactionaries don't have a monopoly on being assholes

baiting arguments with lies so that you can be haughtily above the fray is an asshole move but nothing about it is particularly reactionary

Markus "Notch" Persson is a gator

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