reddit is way too large and diverse a community to generalize about the political beliefs of its users, but broadly speaking many redditors could accurately be termed 'liberal' of some description
keeping in mind that the term does not necessarily imply either radical left politics or any real commitment to social progressivism in the modern political climate
the term "liberal" is way too vague and variously defined to generalize about the political beliefs of reddit's users, but broadly speaking many liberal beliefs could accurately be counted among the reddit userbase
For some reason, people will talk about Chipotle when referring to restaurants that gave them indigestion. Why? Are they racist? Why does the caged bird sing?
"It is a matter of grave importance that Fairy tales should be respected.... Whosoever alters them to suit his own opinions, whatever they are, is guilty, to our thinking, of an act of presumption, and appropriates to himself what does not belong to him." -- Charles Dickens
Most people termed right-wing by progressives are still liberals
For some reason, people will talk about Chipotle when referring to restaurants that gave them indigestion. Why? Are they racist? Why does the caged bird sing?
Probably because Mexican food is the only spicy food they're used to. Especially if the only Mexican place they know of is Chipotle.
Speaking of Mexican food of questionable authenticity, we went to On the Border tonight, and I think I ate too much salsa...they made it spicy today. :P
"It is a matter of grave importance that Fairy tales should be respected.... Whosoever alters them to suit his own opinions, whatever they are, is guilty, to our thinking, of an act of presumption, and appropriates to himself what does not belong to him." -- Charles Dickens
Sure. Liberalism basically started with John Locke, whose principles came to be embodied in the United States Constitution. Ever wonder why opponents of the Revolution were called Tories? Because the whole premise of a democracy with a written Constitution containing freedom of religion instead of a organic social order headed by a monarch and his church was very, very Whig (the name of the left-of-center party back then). Even the most reactionary libertarians (and that term's a giveaway) who want to abolish the income tax and the welfare state and federal bureaucracy it supports support the fundametal liberal principles.
But obviously, the term has acquired several more specific senses with meanings which are often outright opposed to one another. Thus a supporter of the free market (which in one sense could be considered extremely liberal) can use the term disparagingly with reference to somebody who wants the government to more closely regulate the market.
And yeah you could probably trace Lockean influences on leftist thought, either via the Western philosophical tradition that produced Marx or more directly on Wollstonecraft, but Locke is clearly not the father of the modern left.
Really tho words change and the modern sense of 'liberal' usually implies either left-wing, or a specific variant thereof; or right-wing, or a specific variant thereof. It very seldom implies a movement encompassing both left- and right-wingers.
"It is a matter of grave importance that Fairy tales should be respected.... Whosoever alters them to suit his own opinions, whatever they are, is guilty, to our thinking, of an act of presumption, and appropriates to himself what does not belong to him." -- Charles Dickens
But obviously, the term has acquired several more specific senses with meanings which are often outright opposed to one another. Thus a supporter of the free market (which in one sense could be considered extremely liberal) can use the term disparagingly with reference to somebody who wants the government to more closely regulate the market.
Obviously. Hence the perceived need for terms like libertarian, neoliberal, etc.
I would say that the left has been post-liberal (socialist) since the mid-19th century, and now liberals are conservative, with some libertarians being reactionary, at least on the social contract between the state and poor people (while conceding social issues to the left where it values individual liberty).
I don't know how helpful it is to be a descriptivist, since the main meanings are opposite in, say, the US and Australia.
the intended meaning is usually evident from the context
i guess prescriptivism is at least consistent, if you don't mind having to explain yourself all the time and getting into extended semantic derails like this one :p
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Okay, not quite. Apparently the $5,000 case cost $500,000 in legal fees.
What the actual fuck.
i get so angry sometimes i just punch plankton --Klinotaxis
i get so angry sometimes i just punch plankton --Klinotaxis
Also, I don't get how tort reform and liberals got into this.
...oh fuck this. Poe, you win.
keeping in mind that the term does not necessarily imply either radical left politics or any real commitment to social progressivism in the modern political climate
But obviously, the term has acquired several more specific senses with meanings which are often outright opposed to one another. Thus a supporter of the free market (which in one sense could be considered extremely liberal) can use the term disparagingly with reference to somebody who wants the government to more closely regulate the market.
And yeah you could probably trace Lockean influences on leftist thought, either via the Western philosophical tradition that produced Marx or more directly on Wollstonecraft, but Locke is clearly not the father of the modern left.
Really tho words change and the modern sense of 'liberal' usually implies either left-wing, or a specific variant thereof; or right-wing, or a specific variant thereof. It very seldom implies a movement encompassing both left- and right-wingers.
Obviously. Hence the perceived need for terms like libertarian, neoliberal, etc.
I would say that the left has been post-liberal (socialist) since the mid-19th century, and now liberals are conservative, with some libertarians being reactionary, at least on the social contract between the state and poor people (while conceding social issues to the left where it values individual liberty).
I don't know how helpful it is to be a descriptivist, since the main meanings are opposite in, say, the US and Australia.
i guess prescriptivism is at least consistent, if you don't mind having to explain yourself all the time and getting into extended semantic derails like this one :p