Weaboos believe that women believe that men believe

Odradek · 2012-07-16 22:03:57

Bask in the awfulness

Obā-san · 2012-07-16 22:05:02

(*Shrug*)

Whatevs.

Imipolex G · 2012-07-16 22:10:50

BIGGER IS BETTER.

Yarrun XIX · 2012-07-16 22:27:48

But on to the topic at hand.

First Issue: Generalizing over an entire gender is a no-no. No matter what you're generalizing, there's no way that it can end well (Specifics: The first four of the nine can be justified as actual good advice for a girl worried about her appearance. Yes, thinness to the point of illness is a bad thing. Yes, implants aren't exactly necessary to get a guy. However, the way it's depicted, it portrays all women as obsessed with their appearance, with no other goals in life than to get compliments on their looks and eventually bag a mate. And this is wrong.)
Second Problem: Assuming that the female characters of one anime (It's named K-On. It's by the same company that did Haruhi) represent beauty for a significant portion of the male population. (Correlated Problem: One must assume that the maker of this image macro agrees with what he preaches. Therefore, one must assume that he is pushing his views of beauty on the entire male population. Which is bad.)
Third Problem: Using anime characters to make fun of ridiculous hairstyles.Honestly, look at the character in the bottom left. No one in real life has hair that long, and those who do rarely put it into two ridiculously long pigtails.
Fourth Problem: Anime characters != Actual Humans. You can't simply take standards of beauty from the animes and slap them onto humans. Anime characters are bereft of many of the things that humans have to deal with. Like skin flaps. And acne. And arm hair. You can't simply ignore that anime characters are 'perfected' humans when comparing them to actual humans.
Fifth Problem: I feel like there's something else wrong, but I can't put my finger on it.

Obā-san · 2012-07-16 22:29:37

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Imipolex G · 2012-07-16 22:54:40

Weaboos, on the other hand, think that a 13-year-old girl having cat ears is DEAD SEXY.

Jumpingzombie · 2012-07-16 22:59:15

I always thought those anime girls (and many others) were pretty damn thin in general. IIRC, Japan generally has thinner people on average anyway and this is reflected in their animation. However, I'm not sure how true this is.

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Salix Babylonika · 2012-07-16 23:35:46

Don't equate anime with "Japan's popular culture".

It's more popular there than here, but a lot of people over there flat out hate anime. Especially moe stuff.

I recall reading a thing where some mayor blamed an otaku convention for a tsunami.

Obā-san · 2012-07-16 23:39:43

I recall reading a thing where some mayor blamed an otaku convention for a tsunami.

Seems about right.

Yarrun XIX · 2012-07-16 23:45:18

I recall reading a thing where some mayor blamed an otaku convention for a tsunami.

Huh. I didn't know Jack Thompson had family in the East.

Imipolex G · 2012-07-16 23:50:06

Natural disasters: being blamed on certain persons and subcultures since...forever

Yarrun XIX · 2012-07-16 23:52:24

Lumine said:
Fifth Problem: I feel like there's something else wrong, but I can't put my finger on it.
Is it that all of the anime characters are probably underage? ^_^

To be honest, I don't factor that in unless the characters look so young that they can't possibly be legal (e.g. Kodomo no Jikan)

Icalasari · 2012-07-17 01:08:37

Imipolex: What about a full grown woman in cat ears? ...And cat tail... And cat whiskers, cat paws, and genetically modified to be an anthropomorphic cat

Imipolex G · 2012-07-17 01:19:59

Whatever floats yer boat, man. I am not gonna get into this

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Yarrun XIX · 2012-07-17 01:48:03

Squiddle's right. The whole kawaii phenomenon extends far outside the reaches of anime. Besides idealizing child-like women, it's also responsible for everything inordinately cute that comes from Japan, like Hello Kitty.

Justice4243 · 2012-07-17 01:53:02

I'm trying to figure out what the heck is up with the bottom center picture.

That anime chick is all forehead and it's not really a great example of an attractive anime female. Why the heck was it picked?

Icalasari · 2012-07-17 01:58:42

^ They like foreheads?

Imipolex G · 2012-07-17 01:59:45

You're not one of the Enlightened Weaboo Race so you wouldn't get it.

Justice4243 · 2012-07-17 02:00:00

^^"Sakura-chan is my waifu"

Yeah, you might be on to something there.

Justice4243 · 2012-07-17 02:01:24

You're not one of the Enlightened Weaboo Race so you wouldn't get it.

*sigh* If ONLY they had Naruto headbands I could wear in public when I was in High School!

Justice4243 · 2012-07-17 02:07:15

Odradek, your mission, should you chose to accept it, is to find someone who agrees with this list and ask them what a "delta based anime format" is.

Justice4243 · 2012-07-17 02:43:08

Actually, Lee showed up and explained things with his awesome brain, so you'er off the hook.

lee4hmz · 2012-07-17 02:43:53

:D

Tre · 2012-07-17 03:30:39

Why yes, as a matter of fact I do think jeans and boots are a good combination and leggings are attractive.

Also, the fact that they used Zettai Ryouiki as a counter to leggings is rather extremely ridiculous, and sort of contradictory (can't have ZR without something making it look ZR-ish, right?). :P

Sredni Vashtar · 2012-07-17 04:21:02

The chart in Odradek's post is amazingly sexist, but to be honest, would I expect anything less of the worst of the basement-dweller crowd? I mean, watching a lot of anime is one thing, but obsessing over the characters like a high school crush in overdrive is indicative of all kinds of issues.

lee4hmz · 2012-07-17 10:53:08

Yeah, that chart is equal parts 3D PIG DISGUSTING (seriously, has the author even spoken to a real woman) and creepy lolicon/teenage girl fetishizing. Yuck.

Justice4243 · 2012-07-17 10:55:07

Generalizing aside, I think 3 or 4 of these would be somewhat valid points if not sitting next to anime pictures.

This list probably wouldn't look like such obvious wish fulfillment without the anime side, too. And you know...we wouldn't have the whole underage issue (assuming they used ADULT women for the other side that is, otherwise, it'd would be a whole new level of creepiness).

Though, I'd still put a "many" in front of "women believe..." if I where to hold out any hope of being taken seriously.

lee4hmz · 2012-07-17 11:06:15

Also, it seems like "women" in this case means "the sort of women who post duckface photos and/or wear scene makeup". Nice selection bias, there; it doesn't even cover a congruent field!

Sredni Vashtar · 2012-07-17 12:52:17

^^ & ^ And these are the exact reasons why this chart is uncomfortable to the point of being painful to look at too long.

inkblot · 2012-07-17 13:04:29

Apparently that's not the original image.

Justice4243 · 2012-07-17 13:59:47

^^ & ^ And these are the exact reasons why this chart is uncomfortable to the point of being painful to look at too long.

Yeah, the "selection bias" as Lee so eloquently put really hurts the credibility even past the anime (unfortunately, I can't see the original until I' back from work). I kinda doubt female my co-workers where much scene make-up or do the duck-face.

Sredni Vashtar · 2012-07-17 15:18:44

^^ Still iffy—it's more like "college girls on Facebook think...", and applying that to all women is just sexist and stupid—but infinitely less creepy overall.

lee4hmz · 2012-07-17 16:53:03

Yeah...while the women on the right side are far less questionable (and in several cases, IMO, a lot prettier than the anime girls), it's still >implying things it shouldn't be. I'm sure the person who made that one would be able to find someone he'd like if he looked at places they were likely to hang out.

Whereas the one with the anime girls? Yeah, good luck hitting on 9th-graders, buttmunch. :P

Yarrun XIX · 2012-07-17 17:14:10

Concerning the second one...Generally, women don't always do those things just to please men. Like the whole high-heels thing. I've complained to quite a few girls about how walking on potentially foot-damaging shoes is stupid, but I've never gotten "it's to please men" as an excuse. It's usually that they like how it looks and it makes them feel pretty.

Jumpingzombie · 2012-07-17 19:00:56

The thing that bugs me about both charts is the overall assumptions made. That most (if not all) do these things and that they only do it for male attention. Some girls might like leggings or weird hair contraptions or do that one weird twisted back pose. I think it would be better if it went after the trends that magazines promote rather than what females actually do.

Justice4243 · 2012-07-18 00:13:38

I just saw the original.

It's kinda a mixed bag for me with some of the girls on the left looking better than the ones on the right.

Salix Babylonika · 2012-07-18 00:20:51

I believe that you believe what women believe is what men believe about what weaboos believe about antinatalists believe in relation to what social justice bloggers believe, but they only believe that because feminists believe that Marxists believe what the Maoists believe about believing in the spirit of believing in socialism.

So I believe, anyway.

Imipolex G · 2012-07-18 00:26:02

What can you believe, anymore?

lee4hmz · 2012-07-18 01:13:35

I believe I am the walrus. Goo goo gajoob.

Imipolex G · 2012-07-18 01:15:36

If you believe it then it is so.

PlutoniumFist · 2012-07-18 02:03:01

I believe in Harvey Dent.

I believe in Gotham City.

I believe in Batman.

Boney · 2012-07-18 02:04:18

I hate most nerds sometimes.

Obā-san · 2012-07-18 02:05:06

Boney said:
I hate most nerds sometimes.

Why so specific.

Join me in bitter loathing of all mankind.

Yarrun XIX · 2012-07-18 02:06:11

I think the girl on the middle right is Bella from Twilight.

The one who's known for a somewhat wooden acting persona.

Opinions.

Imipolex G · 2012-07-18 02:07:33

I still disagree with the fourth one

Yarrun XIX · 2012-07-18 02:09:55

And it's your right as an American citizen to do so.

And it's mandated in Australia, of course.

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glennmagusharvey · 2012-07-18 11:40:50

Re both pictures: ...whatever.

> Squiddle's right. The whole kawaii phenomenon extends far outside the
reaches of anime. Besides idealizing child-like women, it's also
responsible for everything inordinately cute that comes from Japan, like
Hello Kitty.

Thing is, Hello Kitty isn't sexualized (as far as I know at least), so there's a line between Hello Kitty and really cutely attractive women that hasn't been noted in this comment.

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