That's Not Art, You Plebeian!

Anonus · 2014-12-06 10:18:12

Coming to ABC this spring

Salix Babylonika · 2014-12-06 10:18:29

ah'd watch it.

Tachyon · 2014-12-06 10:37:08

a sample episode list

ep 1: Disney Animated Classics
ep 2: Jackson Pollock
ep 3: all video games ever
ep 4: Sabon
ep 5: Adventure Time
ep 6: Summer Wars
ep 7: Piet Mondrian
ep 8: BBC Radio 3
ep 9: Gotham
ep 10: Seamus Heaney
ep 11: college rock
ep 12: Shasta McNasty

Morven · 2014-12-07 09:37:30

I'd watch it and yell at it.

Though technically anything that anyone wishes to call art is art. It just might be really awful art. Stuff ain't not art just because it sucks.

Tachyon · 2014-12-07 09:43:43

imo 'art' is a culturally defined category and if we can't allow for prescriptive definitions of art then we end up throwing out the idea that creative works can be valued, which is dangerously close to saying that all creative works are literally the same.

Morven · 2014-12-07 09:55:53

Most artists would disagree with that, in my experience.

Though I think the actual working definition is that anything the art world has ever considered art is art, regardless of one's opinion of its quality. So the prescriptiveness is really about who is considered able to do that.

Tachyon · 2014-12-07 09:57:21

The relationship between artists and critics strikes me as... volatile.

Which i guess is not suprising.

Tachyon · 2014-12-07 09:58:37

Kind of bothers me, tbh, since i think academic study is a worthwhile pursuit and so scrutiny of artistic works is a valid activity.

Salix Babylonika · 2014-12-07 09:59:11

I wish the relationship was, mutually, less vitriolic.

Morven · 2014-12-07 10:40:35

I think the problem is that critics want to elevate their status as more important than artists', and cast themselves as kingmakers. It's not really about the academic aspect, it's more about critics using and abusing their power.

Salix Babylonika · 2014-12-07 10:41:59

As someone who is on both sides of the fence but not in any serious capacity, I think it's an issue of mutual disrespect.

Critics think that what they have to say is always correct and important, Artists think that what critics have to say is never correct or important, to massively oversimplify the issue.

There needs to be a common ground, you know.

Tachyon · 2014-12-07 10:42:36

In my experience artists seem equally hostile towards the views of critics and the theories of academics. It's the latter that interest me more, although i feel that the former do a useful thing.

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