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  • Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    Hooray!

    I'll finally get my Windblade movie. Or a movie with Windblade in it.
  • edited 2014-11-13 02:09:14
    I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    The movie rights to Transformers are locked up with Paramount, who will cling to them for dear life.

    As for myself, I'm worried about the DreamWorks Classics characters (the good/decent ones anyway). I also think if this happens this will end up on the definitive list of worst corporate mergers ever.
  • Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    Oh. That's terrible.
  • Sup bitches, witches, Haters, and trolls.
    get ready for funny animal CGI versions of my little pony, guys
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    There is one possible thing that could scuttle the creation of DreamWorks-Hasbro (not sure why their name is coming first): Penguins of Madagascar might flop. Every time DWA competes with another major animated feature (in this case, Big Hero 6), they lose.
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat

    Oh. That's terrible.

    And ironically, you know how Paramount got the Transformers movie rights? By buying the original DreamWorks SKG!
  • i misread hasbro as haribo

    haribo is better
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    Is Haribo so boss as to be trying to buy Rocky and Bullwinkle tho
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    (DreamWorks doesn't technically own them, but they might as well)
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    really, though, if this DreamWorks-Hasbro thing turns out to be a trainwreck, I hope the Ward estate can find a way to dissolve Bullwinkle Studios and take back full ownership of their characters...
  • Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    I need my CGI-animated or traditionally animated movie about the young Cityspeaker and the treacherous world she's pushed into.

    Or I could have a candy-modeled stop-motion movie, that could work too.
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    I don't know

    Something tells me that Jeffrey Katzenberg's influence on DreamWorks-Hasbro is not going to be good

    Guy's like a relic
  • edited 2014-11-13 02:51:20
    I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    Confession: As far back as 2012, I gave thought to Hasbro acquiring DWA

    It's just that I didn't know how top-down DWA was in terms of management, and how behind the times Katzenberg seemed to be

    I just thought it would have been a way for Hasbro to demonstrate that they were serious about growing The Hub (though it was a painful joint venture with Discovery Communications)...

    A marriage between a toy company and a Hollywood studio doesn't seem ideal anyway.
  • edited 2014-11-13 04:02:29
    I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    Oh god I had forgotten

    If Hasbro does buy DWA, they'll own the rights to Filmation's He-Man and She-Ra shows, featuring characters owned by Mattel.

    It sounds like a situation similar to Warner Bros., the owner of DC, owning Hanna-Barbera's Fantastic Four show...
  • edited 2014-11-13 04:41:14
    I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    Something tells me that DreamWorks-Hasbro will be a huge clusterfuck that gets undone within 2-3 years, if this does happen...
  • If this means Dreamworks is gonna do the Magic movie, I'm so down.
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    The Magic rights are at Universal.
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    There's another kink in this deal: most Hasbro IP of value is elsewhere. The only IP of value that's with them is My Little Pony.
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    I'm actually a little disappointed for reasons I cannot fully fathom.

    It doesn't surprise me that Disney was involved here.
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    Did you want to see the trainwreck that would have ensued?
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    No, I'm curious as to what kind of films they would have made. DWA has been astonishingly mediocre for a while now, and I am legitimately curious as to what they would do if they were forced to shape up from on high... or, alternately, just straight up turned into a massive marketing vehicle instead of a massive self-marketing vehicle, which would honestly be just a smidgen less embarrassing.

    But I doubt that they will ever get back to Prince of Egypt-level quality. Would that they would, but the world is not fair and you take what you can get.

    Speaking of great animation and animators, Hayao Miyazaki has gone back to manga and short films in his retirement and I find that a potentially exciting prospect. Also, his son is directing a TV show, and apparently it's in 2D CG and actually looks fantastic.

    Oh, and I still need to catch up on Adventure Time, but it keeps getting better.

    So at least some people in animation are doing well.
  • edited 2014-11-15 00:44:34
    I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    The entire DreamWorks endeavor - dating back to the days when DWA was a cog in the original DreamWorks's machine - seems to have been doomed from the start. Too much ego at the top, too little concern for budget (I've read that Sinbad: Legend of the Seven Seas was such a fiasco that it almost bankrupted the entire company)...

    You're right, DWA's focus on trying too hard to be a brand manager is really not good. They're a company that built their name on being like Disney and/or Pixar, but not as good. Why would anyone want to buy that? (Though personally, if I were running a Hollywood studio, I'd buy them simply to eliminate a competitor in the field of animated movies, even if it meant dealing with Katzenberg's prima donna self for a few years)
  • edited 2014-11-15 01:07:58
    “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Early on, at least, they had ambition and talent, with a distinct style and a willingness to take on stories that were, to be blunt, a little too adult or dark for Disney at that time. Disney would not make a film about ambiguously bisexual failed conquistadors becoming the false messiahs of a legendary Amazonian civilisation, or an animated musical based on the first portion of Exodus with all the snake-staves and dead children intact, at least not then. Not enough room for an uncomplicated happy ending.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Seriously, 2D-era DreamWorks was great. And then they kinda... yeah.
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    It's really sad if you read The Men Who Would Be King - it's apparent through descriptions of Disney- and early DreamWorks-era Katzenberg that he had come to legitimately appreciate animation. Then that went out the window the second Shrek started bringing in the green and he based the whole DreamWorks brand around his misunderstanding of what made it work.
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    (disclaimer: I haven't read all that far into the book; where I left off, Saving Private Ryan's production was gearing up)
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    At this point DWA should merge with Media General so that Jeffrey Katzenberg can indulge his Passion for Local Broadcasting™
  • THIS MACHINE KILLS FASCISTS
    Honestly, I think DWA should sell Shrek and Classic to Iconix, and then get back to actually doing something important. If it means firing everyone, do that
  • did DWA make Treasure Planet?

    I used to like that movie a lot but it's been years
  • THIS MACHINE KILLS FASCISTS
    That was Disney, actually.
  • Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    I still really like that movie.
  • I would probably still like it if I saw it but can't say that with authority, it's been about a decade.
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    lee4hmz said:

    Honestly, I think DWA should sell Shrek and Classic to Iconix, and then get back to actually doing something important. If it means firing everyone, do that

    Shrek and DreamWorks Classics really need to get out of the shit vortex that is DWA

    I always worry that DWA will end up going bankrupt and their assets will be bought at auction by DHX Media or some other second/third-rate concern
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    I do kind of think sometimes that, in some desperate attempt to stay afloat, Katz will put DreamWorks Classics on the block at some point. It's been bought and sold so many times already...
  • We can do anything if we do it together.
    It's kinda sad that Disney only seems to try to be experimental when they're in trouble, and hence, don't have the resources to properly pull it off. Granted, a few films they've done this way, like Alice in Wonderland and The Emperor's New Groove, still turn out pretty good anyway, but it's still pretty frustrating.
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    There's also Lilo & Stitch, which, among other virtues, applied Disney craftsmanship to a look that wasn't typical of Disney.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    And had unconventional protagonists who just happened to not be fantasy European white folks in a reality-based setting.
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    L&S is why it was disheartening to me that the only character who looked non-white - and was played by a non-white person (Djimon Hounsou) - in How to Train Your Dragon 2 was its antagonist. L&S succeeded in portraying its non-white characters with respect...
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    To be fair, I think that character was supposed to be pretty explicitly Nordic, and the choice of voice actor was using roughly the same logic as casting Keith David as Goliath—good actor with a low, commanding voice that can pull off a certain mood well. That the character ended up looking vaguely non-white (and that's relative) in an overwhelmingly pale cast is more unfortunate than anything.
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    Yeah...I'd like to think it was an accident.
  • edited 2014-11-15 04:56:24
    “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    I'm guessing it was given the people involved. They were going for a grizzled, sea-battered Viking warrior type, and... well, he does look like one. He's period-appropriate. It just so happens that having a deep tan and wearing black hair in locks does not say "Scandinavian" to a lot of people for fairly obvious reasons. Eh.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    (Funnily enough, Hiccup's father and several of the other male islanders can be seen wearing that style of tightly woven braid in the first film. But most of them are redheaded or the like and on the pale side, soooo...)
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    You know, I thought about how Jeffrey Katzenberg has no succession plan, and no apparent desire to retire

    He's a famous workaholic - I'm convinced he wants to keep running DWA, or maybe even something bigger, until the day he dies. Maybe he even wants DWA to die with him if he can't sell it.
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