I think that Occupy Wall Street was the official moment that the zeitgeist of the 2010's became obvious to Americans, much like how Beatlemania did the same in the 1960's.
That's still in the works. While every scientist not an industry shill or a backwards crank has admitted that climate change and global weirding are things that are happening, you still have kooky fundie Congressmen and oblivious Australian sheep farmers fiddling in the blaze. And a lot of people just plain old don't understand the issue.
I love people, but sometimes I hate people. It's complicated.
it's just the first time i saw youtube videos from world events as they were occuring. so a personal thing. insofar as something in iran is personal to some american.
You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
In my defense, I was just reposting a screenshot from the idiocy Lee linked above. :P
You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
I thought the American thought on Socialism was something along the lines of "It works in some places in Europe, but wouldn't work in the United States".
I thought the American thought on Socialism was something along the lines of "It works in some places in Europe, but wouldn't work in the United States".
the American thought on Socialism is less a thought and more an intense ball of burning, irrational hatred.
Nah, I'm pretty sure that a lot of people in the united states are pretty glad for muckraker-type reforms and the ensuing "Workplaces should not be deathtraps and monopolies aren't cool, also, unions are a thing that should exist" socialism of the Robber Baron era. I mean, I'm pretty sure nobody really regrets the "you have to list ingredients on food and medicine" laws.
I'm not quite sure who these people with the burning irrational hatred of socialism are. Maybe it's the same as the people who worship guns and apparently think the sun orbits the earth.
As of today the only US member organization of the worldwide Socialist International is the Democratic Socialists of America. In 2008, the Democratic Socialists of America supported Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama in his race against Republican candidate John McCain. Following Obama's election, many on the right[218] began to allege that his administration's policies were "socialistic," a claim rejected by DSA and the Obama administration alike. The widespread use of the word "socialism" as a political epithet against the Obama government by its opponents caused National Director Frank Llewellyn to declare that "over the past 12 months, the Democratic Socialists of America has received more media attention than it has over the past 12 years."[219]
Well yeah. You just kinda slowly extend the welfare state in mostly inoffensive ways instead of going HA HA, VICTORY TO THE PROLETARIAT
personally i kinda wish we had negative income tax
yeah but the in-the-bones rejection the average American has to the very idea of Socialism has prevented them from even organizing properly.
there's like five hundred American Socialist Parties and they all have like four members each.
well what i'm talking about is basically the same 'slow drifting' thing you mentioned is all. don't have to call yourself socialist. and like myrmidon said the billion parties thing is hilariously not american-exclusive at all.
well what i'm talking about is basically the same 'slow drifting' thing you mentioned is all. don't have to call yourself socialist. and like myrmidon said the billion parties thing is hilariously not american-exclusive at all.
Argh, I saw an ad for some awful neocon group on a YouTube video I was watching, and now I'm all "If the British couldn't control the Levant, what makes you think you can? And if you suggest nukes, you're going straight to whatever hell Hitler and Stalin are in. :P"
I hope that social democracy or even democratic socialism finally comes to the United States soon. It's been a long time coming.
I doubt it.
You'd have to like, somehow sneak it in without calling it that, given how the average American still considers "Socialism" a dirty word.
There was a recent poll in which something like 30% of respondents said that they approved of socialism in principle while 33% were either on the fence or admitted that they didn't know enough to say either way. Of course, the remainder were opposed or strongly opposed, but even if that's a biased sample, it's not improbable that it's more representative than the far right would have you think. Consider that back at the turn of the century Eugene V. Debs garnered 20% of the vote when running against Warren G. Harding from prison.
I think that we are almost ready for things to improve. I can understand being sceptical from where you are, but not all of America is... like that.
That and I think we're finally getting past the Red Scare mentality that the Cold War perpetuated, and realising that some socialist-inspired things can get done without turning the country into North Korea.
As radical as the Stalinist regimes were, they were also highly reactionary as well, restricting free speech and sexuality essentially for the hell of it.
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You'd have to like, somehow sneak it in without calling it that, given how the average American still considers "Socialism" a dirty word.
personally i kinda wish we had negative income tax
MRAs hate women so much that they're willing to neglect children in order to spite them. God damn. >_>
there's like five hundred American Socialist Parties and they all have like four members each.
not that that's unusual for a third party candidate, but still.
Maybe a spoiler is the best solution?
Which, honestly, the finer point of even that distinction is lost amongst most people, which is where this sort of problem stems from.
A socialist-leaning friend of mine linked me an article mocking all the different socialist parties in the United Kingdom a while back. It's an amusing read.