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  • For once, or maybe twice, I was in my prime.
    As promised, here is Relentlesshttps://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24985628/Relent.zip This was disc 2 of the 2-disc special edition of Very. And, in spite of the vanilla edition of Very remaining in print, the special edition went out of print, and the six songs from Relentless have yet to be reissued.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Yo, Jane, go look up Coil's "First Dark Ride". I think you will dig it.
  • thanks Meta

    Yo, Jane, go look up Coil's "First Dark Ride". I think you will dig it.

    I've listened to Coil before and I recall feeling like I didn't get it.
  • Coil does not have a consistent sound from album to album
  • oh one of those bands.

    yeah I think I listened to 20 Jazz-Funk Greats or whatever it's called and I was just kinda confused.
  • that's a throbbing gristle album
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Yeah, that is TG. Related, and similarly mercurial, but very, very different.

    "First Dark Ride" is unusual for a number of reasons, but if you like it, I can recommend Love's Secret Domain at the very least.
  • I want to like make a guide to the rap music I like but I have no idea if anyone here would care about it

    and if I'm gonna start doing those mixes semiregularly I could just introduce people to stuff that way
  • We can do anything if we do it together.
    As someone who wouldn't mind having more knowledge of rap, I would like to read it.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    I would be interested, if only because it would be a nice way to find new stuff.
  • alright maybe I'll do that then

    I'm hardly an expert myself but I know a bit
  • I want to like make a guide to the rap music I like but I have no idea if anyone here would care about it


    and if I'm gonna start doing those mixes semiregularly I could just introduce people to stuff that way
    I'd definitely be interested.
  • naney said:

    This Ocrilim album is the best 95 cents ive ever spent

    i really want to emphasize how great this is, ive been listening to it non-stop

  • it's been a really good year for releases from Wu Tang members.

    Ghost had Sour Soul with Badbadnotgood, Rae's Fly International Luxurious Art is great so far, Deck's putting out the new Czarface album soon, and Method Man has an album in the works.
  • Pitchfork just did a review of Surgeon's Basictonalvocabulary

    which is rather strange because it came out in 1997

    there was a reprint last year, but that still doesnt explain why they are reviewing it now?
  • they also did a review of Touchdown 2 Cause Hell by Lil Boosie which I need to check out.
  • pitchfork is like four pins it's 98% garbage but i end up there every once in a while and i read a whole ton of shit anyways
  • i would like a guide to the rap music you like jane

    atm my rap knowledge of american rap extends to, like, three six mafia and lil b, im sure theres more than that
  • sunn wolf said:

    i would like a guide to the rap music you like jane

    atm my rap knowledge of american rap extends to, like, three six mafia and lil b, im sure theres more than that

    well just offhand and based off of that you should check out UGK and Lil Keke

    I don't know much about southern rap but those are touchstones alongside Three-Six.

    i will write this guide up at some point.
  • also you could literally spend weeks going through everything DJ Screw did in his lifetime but that may be a larger scale project than you're willing to get into.

    Ridin' Dirty (no relation to the Chamilionaire song which is named after it) and Don't Mess Wit' Texas are great albums.
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    this is so incredible on so many levels
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    really wishing we had a "like" button here
  • TreTre
    edited 2015-06-22 20:38:18
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    Moving my review-thing of Zedd's album True Colors here per suggestion of Jane.
    Tre said:

    Tre said:

    Zedd and Bahari -- Addicted to a Memory


    Trying Zedd's new album out. Something tells me it's not gonna be quite as good as his last effort Clarity was but by no means bad. Liking this, though.

    Okay yeah never mind he's still got it. Holy shit.
    Following up on this with my second full listen on this album.

    I can say without a doubt that Anton's still very impressive as a musician and as a producer, but something about True Colors isn't quite hitting the same emotional highs I get from his last effort, Clarity. This very well may be because I associate Clarity with the a-m-a-z-i-n-g live show he toured with back in 2013 that was based around the album, though I get the feeling that may not be the entirety of it. There's more of a focus on individual singles in this album, for one, which is a bit of a letdown after getting used to the last record's gorgeous transitional work. Additionally, there's a lot more focus on tight vocal work from the featured artists on this album (only one track doesn't do so, that being a collaboration with the gritty electro duo Botnek), which is of course a byproduct of his increased intent on appealing to his newfound pop audience. In and of itself this isn't really a bad thing, but it does prove to make things a little awkward and overlong when Anton lets his electronic and classical roots take the reins (the best songs on the album are quite north of the standard 3-4 minute runtime of most pop songs, with the longest and most notable of them clocking in at 7 minutes and 23 seconds).

    I'm not disappointed in the album at all but I do think it could have probably benefitted from a less inherently mainstream-bound approach, as hipstery as that may sound. Clarity was great because it was an EDM album with enough pop appeal to draw in an unexpected crowd; True Colors, by comparison, feels like an earnest but uninspired attempt to please both sides.

    I do think it has the capability to grow on me, though. Favorite tracks of mine include "Addicted to a Memory", "Transmission", "Straight Into the Fire", "Papercut" and "Bumble Bee".
  • We can do anything if we do it together.
    I think that Mess may be my favourite Liars album, or at least definitely up there.
  • im listening to those old :wumpscut: tunes i loved when i was like 15

    and im actually liking them?
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    naney said:

    im listening to those old :wumpscut: tunes i loved when i was like 15

    and im actually liking them?

    They made that antinatalist song
  • it's an entire antinatalist concept album
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    Well cool
  • don't get me wrong it isn't amazing but I was expecting it to be literally unlistenable so
  • I am listening to cloudmakers trio, they are about 20 feet away from me its pretty rad
  • I bought their album
  • Munch munch, chomp chomp...
    Hey music nerds, do you know any other songs like Different Trains and Bird Concerto with Pianosong? I've noticed music with naturalistic elements is something I really like (I guess just "naturalistic music"? Whatever), no less when it includes trains and birds. I don't really have anything in mind, so I guess just throw what you know at me, please?
    I am cross-posting my sleep-deprived self here.
  • Crystal said:

    Hey music nerds, do you know any other songs like Different Trains and Bird Concerto with Pianosong? I've noticed music with naturalistic elements is something I really like (I guess just "naturalistic music"? Whatever), no less when it includes trains and birds. I don't really have anything in mind, so I guess just throw what you know at me, please?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olivier_Messiaen#Birdsong for your consideration
  • Munch munch, chomp chomp...
    Should've mentioned I've been looking at him since I was suggested the latter. >_>; But yeah, I'll definitely look into Messiaen.
  • I know that Sunn is a big fan of Messiaen so you should bug him abt that

  • i should mention that El Tren Fantasma is definitely a contender for a place in my top 5 albums of all time list
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    Hey music nerds, do you know any other songs like Different Trains and Bird Concerto with Pianosong? I've noticed music with naturalistic elements is something I really like (I guess just "naturalistic music"? Whatever), no less when it includes trains and birds. I don't really have anything in mind, so I guess just throw what you know at me, please?
    I am cross-posting my sleep-deprived self here.

  • @Crystal re birdsong: Messiaen differs from what youre talking about before in that instead of using actual recordings it's more like an orchestral interpretation of birdsong. you might still be into that, and by all means give something like 'Oiseaux exotiques' a listen, but it sounds to me like you're more looking for music that incorporates field recordings. there's a fair amount of that out there. 'El Tren Fantasma' is one of those and im backing naney in calling it a rly fucking fantastic album that is worth your time

    something perhaps a little less obviously connected is i'd recommend Akira kosemura's album 'Polaroid Piano'. i know you like solo piano stuff and this is a piano album, but it's a really close-in recording and you can hear all the creaks and clunks of the piano as well as some background noise and it's a really warm, natural sound
  • also re listening to polaroid piano i forgot but it does actually have bird recordings in it! so there is that
  • I made a post on another forum about this and it's relevant to this thread

    So I had a weird train of thought a bit ago, and I posted about it on twitter so I'm just gonna copy the tweets cuz I don't feel like retyping all this.

        I was thinking about something earlier.

        I think that part of growing older is realizing that you're going to eventually become a defener, at least in part, and being OK with that.

        EVENTUALLY that style is gonna be passe and music like that won't be popular anymore. Drake will eventually be 40.

        And I think at that point the audience has two options, either you move on and recognize that whatever new stuff comes out is just not gonna have that same impact to you, OR you become the dude who's buying tickets to Drake's fifth comeback tour.

        And there's really no winning there, but I think it's important to acknowledge. Cuz the alternative is worse.

        The alternative is you become the person who's trying to be "the cool older dude" and is like 60 and listening to Rick Ross.

        No one likes that person. Older people are supposed to hate new stuff to at least a minor extent.

        I only bring this up because it's kind of already happening to me.

        I think the only new, popular artist that's come out in the last 5 years whose stuff I like the majority of the time is Kendrick.

        and mind you, I'm only 21, but 99% of pop music is made for people in the 13-18 demographic.

        Even that's pushing it, pop music's main intended audience is 14, 15, and 16 year olds.

        if you're even a few months north of that you're out of the intended audience. You're "pinky ring" money.

        and it leads to a weird phenomenon where you end up identifying with people who are way older than you more than people who are slightly younger

        like one of my favorite albums this year so far was by Ghostface Killah who started making music before I was born.

    and y'know I realize I'm mostly talking about myself there, but that experience can't be unique, can it? Maybe I'm just tired.

    [I also realized after thinking about it for a bit that I also enjoy most of Tyler and Earl's stuff, plus Danny Brown's, so maybe I'm just completely full of it lmao]

    Unrelated, I was in Philly yesterday (I live in PA but not anywhere near Philly) and got to sit in a museum for two hours, woo hoo.
  • Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    This is why you have children. So you can go with your kids and you won't be seen as a creeper or a weirdo.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    i don't understand why old people are 'supposed' to hate new music.  Or why that supposition should mean you can't listen to new music anyway and ignore the supposers.

    If i find a music thing difficult to listen to and other people do not my first assumption is that either i'm not listening for the right thing, or i'm missing some context.  i don't see why this approach would hold any less true for new music than for old music.
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    My mom is 60 and loved "Shake it Off", so...
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    My mom likes a lot of new music.
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