A Music Discussion Heap of The Heapers' Hangout Forum [NO EMBEDS]

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  • naney said:

    man there was this one dude i knew in high school who was super into dream theater

    everyone knows someone who is super into Dream Theater or was in high school.
  • edited 2014-12-19 00:03:42

    sunn wolf said:

    challenge: link me to a piece of non-experimental music

    go

    gonna cheap out here
  • That's a 404, naney.
  • naney said:

    sunn wolf said:

    challenge: link me to a piece of non-experimental music

    go

    gonna cheap out here
    an experiment in how much they can sound like the actual police
  • I forgot how good early/mid period Infected Mushroom could be
  • Sup bitches, witches, Haters, and trolls.
    under a funeral {m|n}oon
  • edited 2014-12-22 06:36:03
    For once, or maybe twice, I was in my prime.
    Sufjan Stevens' albums of Christmas music all started off as literal presents for his friends and family. Releasing them to the general public was initially something he never even planned on (see: most of Songs for Christmas), only later rising to the level of distinctly secondary concern (see: all the material on Silver & Gold).

    Anyway, for reasons that aren't entirely clear (as best I can tell, a mix of runaway perfectionism and anger over one of the CDs leaking to the internet), Sufjan sorta pulled a George Lucas with Silver & Gold. The five CDs he released to the general public are not the same material he left in his friends' and family's stockings. For some songs he just remastered them, or dubbed a few extra instruments in. Other songs he just threw away and re-recorded them from scratch, sometimes wildly changing the arrangements in the process. Volume 8: Christmas Infinity Voyage was the most affected by this.

    I told you all that so I could tell you this: Remember when I mentioned that one of those gift CDs leaked to the internet? Christmas Infinity Voyage was the one. Just this winter, I tracked down a download of the leaked version: Astral Inter Planet Space Captain Christmas Infinity Voyage, as it was originally known. It's a real eye-opener. 

    How is it different? It's got fewer song, for one: "Particle Physics" and the cover of "Alphabet St." were recorded specifically for the special edition, apparently. Of the remaining songs, only "Christmas in the Room" is recognizably the same recording. The other songs are very, very electronic in both versions, but different electronic arrangements. The original version was recorded a few years before The Age of Adz so it sounds like Sufjan was still getting a handle on that electropop style. And the later version was definitely recorded after, and heavily influenced by, The Age of Adz—one of the songs samples from "Impossible Soul" for crying out loud. The most striking difference is between the two versions of "The Child with the Star on His Head". Instead of an extended guitar solo and an even more extended, abstract synth part, the original version ends with the full band jamming together and simultaneous guitar and trumpet solos.

    Which version is better? I'll leave that one for the philosophers to decide.

    Anyway, here's Astral Inter Planet Space Captain Christmas Infinity Voyage for anyone else who wants to hear it: https://www.dropbox.com/s/f8i4ydr8ilqe4s0/Astral Inter Planet.zip?dl=0
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    Gazpacho makes perfect music to fall asleep on a plane to.

    That sounds like an insult, but it isn't.
  • The Big Gundown is a really good album but it's got so much stuff going on that it's not something that you're ever "in the mood for" if it makes any sense

    it's a very demanding listen
  • Maybe moreso than Spillane?
  • also it took me at least 7 listens to realize that the vocalist on The Ballad of Hank McCain is Mike Patton
  • The Rolling Stone review by Steve Futterman was less impressed stating "Despite high-spirited contributions from a first rate cast, Zorn's tentative and analytical remakes tend to bleed Morricone's high drama and joyous kitschiness dry".

    Rolling Stone continues to impress via its sheer badness
  • I read an issue of Rolling Stone at a doctor's office like a week ago and the "big article" was just David Grohl whining about Nicki Minaj.
  • Rolling Stone is like

    the middle school teacher who wants to be cool but misses the mark a lot of music publications

    Minaj > Grohl tbh, nobody likes the foo fighters and that probot album was lame #shotsfired
  • THIS MACHINE KILLS FASCISTS
    The foo fighters' first album came out in 1995. It is now almost 2015. God, I'm old. >.<
  • I really love when rock musicians who have never been widely critically acclaimed (or even that popular) act like they're veteran rockstars and huge authorities on all music, universally.

    it's a very specific trope you see in those kinds of magazines a lot.
  • THIS MACHINE KILLS FASCISTS
    It sounds like they're pandering to a specific crowd, specifically people about my age or a little older who were total grungeheads in high school or college, and totally don't get modern pop music and wonder where their idols went blah blah blah.
  • THIS MACHINE KILLS FASCISTS
    It's 2014, man. The MP3 revolution means everyone listens to everything.
  • i think dave grohls output with foo fighters may in fact be a highly complex experiment to create music which is the precise aural equivalent of cardboard
  • edited 2014-12-24 00:27:27
    We can do anything if we do it together.
    Dave Grohl actually does have some taste and talent, and could produce something pretty good if he put his mind to it.

    That fact makes it all the more frustrating that he willingly chooses to spend all his time pumping out radio sludge instead.
  • what if i say im not like the others what if i say that something something antonyfantanodrinkingakalesmoothie.flac i'll never surrender
  • edited 2014-12-24 00:36:24

    i havent heard that song in years im so happy
  • Yeah, he's a good fucking musician and absolutely nothing he's done with foo fighters has remotely given me anything to be interested in. 


  • THIS MACHINE KILLS FASCISTS
    The first two foo fighters albums were okay, but I just haven't been able to care about anything beyond that.
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    My favorite David Grohl moment was when he and the Foo Fighters spent their award speech at the grammys talking about standing for REAL ROCK AND ROLL and then got played out by Party Rock Anthem
  • THIS MACHINE KILLS FASCISTS
    Hehehehe
  • Phil Minton is so good

    so, so good

    incredible
  • I need more acoustica

    should get around to listening to that Grouper album at some point too
  • Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    Apparently someone made a Christmas version of Yeezus.

    Not very good, but it's Christmas, so I don't know what you expected.
  • edited 2014-12-24 21:50:16

    now that i got an optical drive i can rip CDs, which means that long last i can properly listen to A U R O R A

    it is the sex
  • it's a fucking boss album, one of the best of the year
  • For once, or maybe twice, I was in my prime.
    Just recently got Flook's three albums. Really lovely stuff. "Natterjack" and "Gone Fishing" are my favorite tracks, I think.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    Yay Flook!  Their studio albums, i take it?

    i'm partial to the E Reels from Flatfish, myself
  • For once, or maybe twice, I was in my prime.
    Yeah. Flatfish, Rubai, and Haven. <Looks them up on Wikipedia.> Ah, I didn't know they had a live album.
  • I'm listening to the Swallowed album that came out in October and it is certifiably 100% sick, murky 'n psychedelic doomy death metal which just kinda lurks until it POUNCES and then it sings back and does it again and it's all just a boatload of fun

    I didn't get to pick up much new music this year, so i think that I'll be going on a bandcamp binge when i get back home
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Trading  music with ^ this fella. It's going reasonably well!
  • Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    'Tiny Glowing Screens': a two-part song about how technology is great, but at the same time taking stabs at westernization, capitalism, techno-libertarianism, materialism, and masking vulnerability with public perception?

    That's what I like to hear.
  • For once, or maybe twice, I was in my prime.
    Do you ever listen to Talking Heads' "Seen and Not Seen" and think, "Man I wish they had done more songs like this. I want a whole album of David Byrne giving surreal monologues over repetitive music!"

    If so, then The Knee Plays is the album for you, my friends.
  • Earth might be my favorite band
  • they're a very good band
  • i was reading on toby drivers facebook that kayo dot need somewhere to crash in Philadelphia on their tour so idk if vash has space to host a bunch of kayo dots, but i would if i could. js
  • he/we don't unfortunately
  • For once, or maybe twice, I was in my prime.
    I have a strong sympathy with Shakespeare because it seems to me that strong similarities can be established between a jazz performance and the production of a Shakespeare play—similarities between the producers, the artists, and the audiences. Basically, both groups face comparable problems in the reluctance of some participants to expose themselves and join the audience. Their hesitance is due, in both cases, to a misconception that the major supporters of both these artistic manifestations—Shakespeare and jazz—are the people who have invested time and money in becoming experts. 

    Many people feel this way about chamber music, too; they fear that as members of an audience, whether for Shakespeare, jazz, or chamber music, their reaction will reveal themselves as insufficiently informed, or possibly unaware of the sensitivities one must acquire to savor completely the subtleties of a performance. In the case of a jazz listener, he may be caught sitting next to an enthusiast and will be ashamed to admit his lack of familiarity with the names of the exponents. In all cases, the newcomer is afraid he will be looked upon as a square. (Nobody knows what a square is—it’s just that nobody wants to be one.) 

    Anybody who listens to a beautifully performed symphony for the first time gains something from it. The next time he hears it, he gains more; when he hears the symphony for the hundredth time, he is benefitted to the hundredth power. So it is with Shakespeare. The spectator can’t get it all the first time; repeated viewings multiply the satisfaction. 

     There is a perfect parallel with jazz, where repeated listening makes for enjoyment. ... In the final analysis, whether it be Shakespeare or jazz, the only thing that counts is the emotional effect on the listener. ... When it sounds good, it is good.

    —Duke Ellington, Music Is My Mistress
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    sunn wolf said:

    i was reading on toby drivers facebook that kayo dot need somewhere to crash in Philadelphia on their tour so idk if vash has space to host a bunch of kayo dots, but i would if i could. js


    I wish. Seriously.
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