Go listen to the first two Buzzcocks albums. And their singles collection and the Spiral Scratch EP. They are amazing and "I Believe", "Moving Away from the Pulsebeat" and "Why Can't I Touch It?" are literally everything right with long punk songs.
I like The Clash, The Minutemen, and the one album Minuteflag did, and Minuteflag is The Minutemen + a band I don't like.
oh wait I liked Zen Arcade too.
ok so like three and a half punk bands.
You have good taste in punk bands. Not really pop-punk, though: Minutemen and Husker Du were both sort of hardcore bands - Simon Reynolds called them "progressive hardcore" - and The Clash are too diverse to describe in one phrase.
It's one of the very few "adult" punk albums out there, and listening to the album in one sitting has a rather surprisingly pleasant psychedelic effect on the mind.
I think that you should check out The Pop Group's Y, even if you don't like it that much overall. If nothing else, it has some great grooves on it. Also maybe some early emo, and Buzzcocks as previously noted.
On a different note entirely... I find it strange when I hear that people won't listen to music because it scares them. I love music that legitimately scares or unnerves me, assuming that it's not the skeevy sort of unnerving.
I like The Clash, The Minutemen, and the one album Minuteflag did, and Minuteflag is The Minutemen + a band I don't like.
oh wait I liked Zen Arcade too.
ok so like three and a half punk bands.
Also, out of curiosity, what about Black Flag did you not like?
As for my feelings on Punk music, there are bands I like here and there, but I've never been hugely into it and most of the punks bands I do listen to are usually 80s hardcore bands, i.e. The Dead Kennedys, Black Flag, The Minutemen and Bad Brains (though Bad Brains evolved into much more than a Hardcore Punk band). Plus, Hardcore Punk had a big influence on two of my favorite genres of Heavy Metal (Thrash and the various sub-genres of Doom Metal [Black Flag was definitely a huge influence on Sludge Metal]).
I think you should realize though that that's unusual.
For most people fear is an unpleasant emotion, and they don't really like experiencing it.
Also why horror movies are sort of a niche thing by nature.
But man, it's about feeling something. Fear is difficult to convey in music, the way that I see it. Lisa Germano's "A Psychopath...", Prurient's "Mask of the Boys", Swans' "The Beautiful Days", Slint's "Don, Aman" - those freak me out. And that's really rare, so I cherish that.
Also, out of curiosity, what about Black Flag did you not like?
As for my feelings on Punk music, there are bands I like here and there, but I've never been hugely into it and most of the punks bands I do listen to are usually 80s hardcore bands, i.e. The Dead Kennedys, Black Flag, The Minutemen and Bad Brains (though Bad Brains evolved into much more than a Hardcore Punk band). Plus, Hardcore Punk had a big influence on two of my favorite genres of Heavy Metal (Thrash and the various sub-genres of Doom Metal [Black Flag was definitely a huge influence on Sludge Metal]).
Same. I also like some of the quirkier anarcho-punk groups and first wave New York and UK bands.
I think you should realize though that that's unusual.
For most people fear is an unpleasant emotion, and they don't really like experiencing it.
Also why horror movies are sort of a niche thing by nature.
But man, it's about feeling something. Fear is difficult to convey in music, the way that I see it. Lisa Germano's "A Psychopath...", Prurient's "Mask of the Boys", Swans' "The Beautiful Days", Slint's "Don, Aman" - those freak me out. And that's really rare, so I cherish that.
*shrug*
That's cool and I respect that, but I don't really like being afraid.
Also a lot of music I've heard described as scary I just kind of find unpleasant to listen to. Which is the point! But again, not my thing.
I do really have a soft spot for sad music of specific kinds though (Bruce Springsteen's Nebraska, much of Blue Nile's output, etc.) so I understand where you're coming from.
maybe it's like an autism thing but harsh noise generally makes me want to just sit around being cozy
Me too.
But Prurient can freak me out for some reason. "Mask of the Boys" isn't quite as freaky as, say, "Myth of Love", but the sudden glowering monolithic loudness and silence and those weird, suggestive and ambiguous lyrics just scare me sometimes. It's like walking into an empty house and coming into a study and finding an open file on a child killer with half of the words blacked out lying on the desk.
I really don't know how to put my dislike of Black Flag beyond they're not my thing. Sorry.
All I know about BadBrains is that MURS likes them.
anyway I can't find the exact quote, but I did find this beautiful piece of nonsense.
Armstrong is an odd guy.
That's really cool. Actually have never heard this.
It is really cool!
Fair enough about Black Flag. I think you might enjoy Bad Brains' stuff. They obviously started out as a punk band, but they incorporated influences from Reggae, Soul and Funk into their later recordings.
Also, did you forget to link to whatever "this beautiful piece on nonsense" is? I'm not seeing a link or anything.
As for my feelings on Punk music, there are bands I like here and there, but I've never been hugely into it and most of the punks bands I do listen to are usually 80s hardcore bands, i.e. The Dead Kennedys, Black Flag, The Minutemen and Bad Brains (though Bad Brains evolved into much more than a Hardcore Punk band). Plus, Hardcore Punk had a big influence on two of my favorite genres of Heavy Metal (Thrash and the various sub-genres of Doom Metal [Black Flag was definitely a huge influence on Sludge Metal]).
Same. I also like some of the quirkier anarcho-punk groups and first wave New York and UK bands.
Yeah, there's some good stuff in there. And in the No wave scene too.
I really don't know how to put my dislike of Black Flag beyond they're not my thing. Sorry.
All I know about BadBrains is that MURS likes them.
anyway I can't find the exact quote, but I did find this beautiful piece of nonsense.
Armstrong is an odd guy.
That's really cool. Actually have never heard this.
It is really cool!
Fair enough about Black Flag. I think you might enjoy Bad Brains' stuff. They obviously started out as a punk band, but they incorporated influences from Reggae, Soul and Funk into their later recordings.
Also, did you forget to link to whatever "this beautiful piece on nonsense is"? I'm not seeing a link or anything.
I meant to link it and then I forgot to. Whoops.
Now I'm listening to "American Wedding" by Frank Ocean. Also whoops.
Apparently Paco de Lucia passed away earlier this year and I just found out about it now. He was only 66 too. It's a real shame such a good musician passed away.
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Also Billy's description of what punk is is one of the funniest, least self-aware things ever.
i just find it funny
Very of its time, though.
oh wait I liked Zen Arcade too.
ok so like three and a half punk bands.
In terms of pop-punk bands, I have been known to enjoy some songs by Fall-Out Boy, My Chemical Romance, and....I think that's it.
I hate Panic At The Disco though.
it's interesting even if you don't really like most of the music being used, just for how it's blended together.
And that song Forever The Sickest Kids did with Ron Browz is funny, if not all that good.
There's a remix of "This Ain't a Scene" that has Kanye West on it, and his verse is him making fun of the band, it's pretty great.
there's a song no one's thought about in like a decade.
I forgot that "Boulevard of Broken Songs" samples "Writing to Reach You", which is one of those songs that makes me cry for no reason.
boo
For most people fear is an unpleasant emotion, and they don't really like experiencing it.
Also why horror movies are sort of a niche thing by nature.
As for my feelings on Punk music, there are bands I like here and there, but I've never been hugely into it and most of the punks bands I do listen to are usually 80s hardcore bands, i.e. The Dead Kennedys, Black Flag, The Minutemen and Bad Brains (though Bad Brains evolved into much more than a Hardcore Punk band). Plus, Hardcore Punk had a big influence on two of my favorite genres of Heavy Metal (Thrash and the various sub-genres of Doom Metal [Black Flag was definitely a huge influence on Sludge Metal]). That's really cool. Actually have never heard this.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=v03lBjJ8mTE
All I know about BadBrains is that MURS likes them.
anyway I can't find the exact quote, but I did find this beautiful piece of nonsense.
Armstrong is an odd guy. It is really cool!
As does the song "Gas Pedal" but not in a good way
That's cool and I respect that, but I don't really like being afraid.
Also a lot of music I've heard described as scary I just kind of find unpleasant to listen to. Which is the point! But again, not my thing.
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This really is of its time.
Also, did you forget to link to whatever "this beautiful piece on nonsense" is? I'm not seeing a link or anything. Yeah, there's some good stuff in there. And in the No wave scene too.
Now I'm listening to "American Wedding" by Frank Ocean. Also whoops.
it's like a who's who of industrial artists that still exist and are pretty good