A Music Discussion Heap of The Heapers' Hangout Forum [NO EMBEDS]

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  • i've listened to Stay With Me

    i wanted to like it, but i did not
  • THIS MACHINE KILLS FASCISTS
    so /mu/ it hurts
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Oh dear sweet babies. No. I just cannot.
  • i will tell yall what the new aphex twin album is like later this evening >:3 >:3 >:3 >:3
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    I am at once super glad for you and annoyed because I envy your position and am just bored and upset right now. It's complicated. Have a great time for me and tell me how it was.
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    One line reviews of albums I have listened to so far

    The Smiths: The Smiths I didn't like it at first, but it grew on me. 

    Bookends: Simon and Garfunkel Really good. Hazy Shade of Winter is the stand out song for me.

    Rum Sodomy and the Lash: The Pogues The last song is the saddest thing ever :(

    The Dark Side of the Moon: Pink Floyd I thought it was meh until the last few songs, which tied it together and made me look positive.

    Graceland: Paul Simon A little too... something? Elevator music-y maybe? Still good though.

    We Were Dead Before the Ship even Sank: Modest Mouse Liked this one fine. Very emotional

    Houses of the Holy: Led Zeppelin Meh


  • My dreams exceed my real life
    Realtalk: The next album was Faith by George Michael and I instantly liked the first two songs better than anything on Houses of the Holy.

    *is instantly skinned to death by dadrockers*
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Led Zeppelin's first few are a lot better than Houses of the Holy, to be quite honest.
  • My dreams exceed my real life

    Led Zeppelin's first few are a lot better than Houses of the Holy, to be quite honest.

    Yes. I have listened to III and IV and they were much more memorable.
  • We can do anything if we do it together.
    I'd like to say that the first Smiths album is actually their worst, although it still has some great moments on it.

    Meat is Murder, The Queen is Dead, and Louder Than Bombs are all superlative albums.
  • edited 2014-09-05 14:48:31
    “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    They really are.

    Hmm. How much other stuff by The Smiths, Pink Floyd and Modest Mouse have you heard?

    ^ "Still Ill" is on their first, innit? Love that track.
  • My dreams exceed my real life

    They really are.


    Hmm. How much other stuff by The Smiths, Pink Floyd and Modest Mouse have you heard?

    ^ "Still Ill" is on their first, innit? Love that track.
    I have heard the whole of The Wall by Pink Floyd, and the song Float On by Modest Mouse.
  • edited 2014-09-05 14:51:55
    We can do anything if we do it together.
    ^^ Yeah, it is. "What Difference Does It Make?" is my personal favourite on that album.

    ^ My favourite Pink Floyd album is Piper at the Gates of Dawn, but I'm weird like that.
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    Oh yes! I have heard that album and liked it, but it is very different from everything else because Syd Barret so I forgot to count it.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    I suggest The Moon and Antarctica and Animals respectively, although it has been years since I have listened to either.

    Also worth noting, but probably something you picked up on: Modest Mouse are a lot stranger and darker (and more technically proficient) than they seem at first glance.
  • edited 2014-09-05 19:55:07

    I am at once super glad for you and annoyed because I envy your position and am just bored and upset right now. It's complicated. Have a great time for me and tell me how it was.

    im sad to hear that :( i hope it will cheer you up to hear the album is p sick. undeniably afx but at the same time something new, if not quite as game changing as some of the stuff he's put out then certainly something i enjoyed a lot and want to hear again. particularly the track that sounded like a gloriously fucked up 80s action film soundtrack. it's p solidly uptempo dancier stuff which i liked but was also disappointed... idk, that he hadn't written another Alberto balsalm or sth.

    there's a nice minimalist piano track to end it tho

    also i got an Official Aphex Twin Plastic Bag™
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Cool! :3
  • edited 2014-09-06 13:49:43
    “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    I am listening to Impossible King Live's Datboonbaat cassette, and it is some of the best collage/soundscape/variably harsh noise that I have heard in a long time. It's like if The Body Lovers' self-titled and Merzbow's Batztoutai with Material Gadgets (or maybe 1930) had a baby.
  • Vougheauxyice (Voice) by Odeya Nini

    are you ready for some incredibly sick jams
  • on track 4

    AOTY?

    maybe
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    "Like it does with women’s bodies, popular culture permits a narrow range of acceptable beauty in women’s voices. There’s a reason Dan Reynolds of Imagine Dragons has room to sing flat on a live television performance but Beyoncé is expected to catapult through multiple key changes with perfect tone and pitch. There’s a reason Lana Del Rey bore the undiluted resentment of her audience when she failed to sing charismatically on Saturday Night Live. There is a reason Britney Spears’ isolated, untreated vocals score listens in the millions every time they’re leaked and the guttural quality of Shakira’s voice is as hotly debated in YouTube comments as her sexual attractiveness. As an object of beauty for public consumption, a woman’s pleasantness must permeate the senses.

    The pressure doesn’t just constrict the blockbusters. Even under the “indie” umbrella, where artists support ad campaigns for Levi’s instead of Pepsi, audiences and critics expect women to adhere to a certain standard of vocal beauty. “Only the fact that the singer’s rather limited voice wears thin at times keeps I Never Learn from being an unqualified masterpiece,” Jim DeRogatis wrote recently about Swedish songwriter Lykke Li’s third album. I can’t recall a man making a similar comment about Colin Meloy of the Decemberists, or Dylan Baldi of Cloud Nothings, or Jeff Mangum, or Jack White. Their limits contribute to their charm. They have never experienced their voices as obstacles to creating masterpieces."

    Hmmm
  • “Only the fact that the singer’s rather limited voice wears thin at
    times keeps I Never Learn from being an unqualified masterpiece,” Jim
    DeRogatis wrote recently about Swedish songwriter Lykke Li’s third
    album. I can’t recall a man making a similar comment about Colin Meloy
    of the Decemberists, or Dylan Baldi of Cloud Nothings, or Jeff Mangum,
    or Jack White.
    well obviously someone hasn't been taking to men with good taste
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    naney said:

    “Only the fact that the singer’s rather limited voice wears thin at
    times keeps I Never Learn from being an unqualified masterpiece,” Jim
    DeRogatis wrote recently about Swedish songwriter Lykke Li’s third
    album. I can’t recall a man making a similar comment about Colin Meloy
    of the Decemberists, or Dylan Baldi of Cloud Nothings, or Jeff Mangum,
    or Jack White.
    well obviously someone hasn't been taking to men with good taste
    naneh burn
  • anyways y'all should listen to the cool lady i linked to earlier

    i can guarantee that she is infinitely cooler than any of the bands/people listed in the paragraph i just quoted
  • (*mockingly off-key and nasal rendition of O Valencia!*)
  • edited 2014-09-08 14:35:50
    “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    I've actually heard that same complaint lodged about all of the aforementioned, so the suggestion that this is some kind of sexist conspiracy is kind of ridiculous. For the record, I quite like Neutral Milk Hotel and The Decemberists most of the time, while nothing I have heard by Cloud Nothings or Lykke Li offends me and The White Stripes were pretty good for what they were... and all of them have strange voices, especially Colin Meloy.

    ^ Their later records suffer more for it, methinks.
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    The Lana Del Ray story: how an artist everyone seemed to be meh on was deemed worthy of endless thinkpieces
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Because she managed to create her own hype machine with far more artistry than her music.

    Anthony Fantano's evisceration of Ultraviolence is beautiful, by the way.
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    Like I have heard endless discussions of Lana Del Ray, but I have never heard anyone say they like her.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    I have, but those people tend to have boring music tastes. Or are major rock critics, and thus have really boring taste.
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    https://www.jacobinmag.com/2014/09/jazz-after-politics/ Adorno sheds a single tear from borehalla
  • edited 2014-09-08 14:42:14
    We can do anything if we do it together.
    I quite like Cloud Nothings. Yes, they're heavily indebted to early Wire and The Wipers, but I wish that more punk-oriented bands would use them as their source instead of Warped Tour stuff that is just regurgitating The Ramones for the 1000th time.
  • Warped Tour stuff that is just regurgitating The Ramones for the 1000th time
    there are lots of complaints one could lob at the Warped Tour crowd but from what i've heard "sounding like The Ramones" isn't one of them.

    for one thing they consistently sound infinitely better than The Ramones.
  • edited 2014-09-08 14:50:42
    “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    The only genres that I can see never gaining full respectability or commercial appeal on a broad basis are genres too abrasive or alienating to capture the imagination of people who think of music in purely political terms: Harsh noise, isolationist drone, breakcore, certain forms of extreme metal and sound collage. Stuff that confuses or scares people and can't easily be made palatable.

    Of course, extreme music of a certain tenor can have a primal appeal on a popular level and become insurrectionary without being easily co-opted, but then it becomes a hipster badge and a commodity by association. But even then, who the hell would want to go to a Swans concert solely to look cool? All that mass swaying would probably be exhausting if you're not into it.
  • We can do anything if we do it together.
    naney said:

    Warped Tour stuff that is just regurgitating The Ramones for the 1000th time
    there are lots of complaints one could lob at the Warped Tour crowd but from what i've heard "sounding like The Ramones" isn't one of them.

    for one thing they consistently sound infinitely better than The Ramones.

    It's true that most of those bands are technically better than The Ramones, but that's not why I like the first couple of Ramones albums. I like those albums because they're basically a turbo-charged early Beach Boys, which I'd imagine is different from why a lot of other people like them. 

    At any rate, even if those bands don't follow the exact sound of The Ramones, they certainly follow the blueprint that they established for pop-punk. It's a blueprint that doesn't leave much room for growth, which is why most Warped Tour bands are so boring, even if they are technically decent. 

    I can only listen to The Ramones in relatively controlled doses before I've had my fill of them for a while, but I don't get the feeling of boredom from them that I do from most Warped Tour bands.
  • edited 2014-09-08 14:57:51
    “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    naney said:

    Warped Tour stuff that is just regurgitating The Ramones for the 1000th time
    there are lots of complaints one could lob at the Warped Tour crowd but from what i've heard "sounding like The Ramones" isn't one of them.

    for one thing they consistently sound infinitely better than The Ramones.
    Honestly, I prefer my sadsack music to have some bite, or more bite, but loathing bands that are that earnest on average is sort of like kicking a small dog: Tempting, but generally excessive and mean.

    I don't get the comparison myself.

    The Ramones were competent, but extremely repetitive.

    ^ Post-hardcore is more common among that set now.
  • i honestly don't care about technical proficiency

    the ramones sound like they were in a coma

    ay. oh. let's go (take a nap).
  • We can do anything if we do it together.
    ^^ All of that is true. I admit that I still think of blink-182 and their cohorts when I think of "Warped Tour", because that was what was popular when I liked that kind of thing as an adolescent.

    I realize that Naney's sister is into that stuff, and she's around the age I was when I liked it, so his conception of "Warped Tour" is more up-to-date than mine is. I apologize for the misunderstanding I caused with that.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    I kind of think that some of The Ramones' earliest songs paved the way for shoegaze and noise rock, particularly "I Wanna Be Your Boyfriend". The guitars really do sound like tuned buzzsaws, and the reverb on everything makes the production feel hazy and warm and weirdly luminous. It's almost like a fever dream of pop music.

    And then it became a formula. And then it stopped being weird and started being boring.
  • edited 2014-09-08 15:07:53

    yeah, when my sis went to Warped Tour there were almost no pop punk bands, and there haven't been for the past few years.

    There were a few nice deathcore and metalcore bands though, i was actually kinda tempted to tag along to see Thy Art Is Murder and Every Time I Die
  • and yeah pop-punk is turrible
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    naney said:

    i honestly don't care about technical proficiency

    the ramones sound like they were in a coma

    ay. oh. let's go (take a nap).

    My band planned on covering "I Wanna Be Sedated" in a minor key at half-speed as if we were on the nod.

    Just wanted to throw that out there.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    naney said:

    and yeah pop-punk is turrible

    It really is.

    The origins of the style were good, though. I love Buzzcocks and The Undertones had some good tracks.
  • THIS MACHINE KILLS FASCISTS
    I remember liking Dookie and that one Offspring album enough back in 1994-1995 to consider buying them. Green Day went on to more interesting things, but I haven't heard from the Offspring in years. 
  • I actually like Green Day (and I am talking "pop" Green Day, not their earlier stuff) quite a bit.

    also American Edit is one of like four good mashup albums.
  • the offspring are like the most frat-bro band in the universe

    and green day is so punk that they pick fights with justin beiber
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