Taste

Anonus · 2014-05-04 04:35:53

do you ever worry that you have bad or no taste in media?

★ ~ S U M M E R ✿ S A U S A G E ! ~ ★ · 2014-05-04 04:43:14

keknope

One-Winged Eagle · 2014-05-04 04:46:43

Fuck no.

Everything I love is both equally terrible and equally amazing.

Anonus · 2014-05-04 04:46:58

^^why are you using Adolf Hitler with cat ears for an avatar

^hm?

★ ~ S U M M E R ✿ S A U S A G E ! ~ ★ · 2014-05-04 04:49:47

silly, it's not adolf hitler, it's a catboy that just happens to look like him, he gets that a lot

One-Winged Eagle · 2014-05-04 05:53:04

Everything has faults. Everything has merits.

Never be ashamed of liking something. Because you like it. And because you like it, you give it merit.

Unless it's like. Birth of a Nation or Mein Kampf or something. Something that could be construed as actually evil.

Anonus · 2014-05-04 05:59:00

Okay, you got me:

This is yet another thing spawned from my insecurities about 101 Dalmatians: The Series. People keep telling me not to feel ashamed over it, but I keep worrying that watching it means I have regressed somehow. I don't even have nostalgia as an excuse; I remember next to nothing about it from my childhood!

Shinobu from Bakemonogatari · 2014-05-04 11:46:05

You worry too much

Two Big Pumpkins · 2014-05-04 12:05:27

Anonus, you're absolutely right. You of all people - an aspiring Media Mogul^TM - should know better than to become strangely obsessed with a third-rate cartoon Disney shat out of its Self-Exploitation Department.

I hereby order you to become obsessed with something actually good.

Tachyon · 2014-05-04 14:30:58

i do actually worry about this sometimes

taste is subjective and no one taste is superior to any other

but i do feel that some things are superior to other things in particular respects, and i do sometimes worry that i'm rather undiscerning, since most heapers seem to have stronger opinions about music and works of fiction than i do

in particular, i feel like i express negative opinions too infrequently, which might be indicative of some kind of weakness of character

Klinotaxis · 2014-05-04 14:32:48

really disappointed this isn't about sensory physiology

Anonus · 2014-05-04 17:20:00

Imipolex G said:
Anonus, you're absolutely right. You of all people - an aspiring Media Mogul^TM - should know better than to become strangely obsessed with a third-rate cartoon Disney shat out of its Self-Exploitation Department.

I hereby order you to become obsessed with something actually good.

well

What do you consider good?

Two Big Pumpkins · 2014-05-04 17:58:24

whatever you think is good, I'm not gonna do all your thinking for you

Anonus · 2014-05-04 17:59:14

well, okay

(I could tell you weren't being totally serious with the "third-rate cartoon" comment though)

Two Big Pumpkins · 2014-05-04 18:00:20

In all honesty, I find your interest in that show a little odd. But whatever floats your boat, I'm not the final arbiter of what people should be into.

Tachyon · 2014-05-04 18:19:09

in all honesty, i don't think it's a dreadful cartoon

it's nothing special, but it can be entertaining

Section42L · 2014-05-04 18:24:53

101 seems like something I would've watched back when I was 14/15, during those times I was bored at 2 AM and there was nothing better on TV.

Shinobu from Bakemonogatari · 2014-05-04 18:27:35

Section42L said:
101 seems like something I would've watched back when I was 14/15, during those times I was bored at 2 AM and there was nothing better on TV.

Heh, same.

I watched a lot of those disposable Canadian cartoons back then for the same reason.

Anonus · 2014-05-04 18:28:18

Oh my god I just thought that 101's gotta be better than Girlstuff/Boystuff or whatever other abortions litter the DHX Media library

MetaFour · 2014-05-04 18:28:30

Anonus said:
This is yet another thing spawned from my insecurities about 101 Dalmatians: The Series. People keep telling me not to feel ashamed over it, but I keep worrying that watching it means I have regressed somehow. I don't even have nostalgia as an excuse; I remember next to nothing about it from my childhood!

Just say it's a "guilty pleasure". That's what everyone else does.

Anonus · 2014-05-04 18:55:50

Okay.

Momo from Dan Da Dan · 2014-05-04 18:59:10

Tachyon said:
in particular, i feel like i express negative opinions too infrequently, which might be indicative of some kind of weakness of character

no it just means you're level-headed.

Two Big Pumpkins · 2014-05-04 19:03:26

I've thought that people are sometimes overly negative in order to try to build up their own self-image. "See, I know all this stuff is terrible, because I'm above it all! Look how great I am!"

★ ~ S U M M E R ✿ S A U S A G E ! ~ ★ · 2014-05-04 19:26:45

The phrase "guilty pleasure" is awful and I hate anyone who uses it. Everyone should just like what they like and not be little bitches about it.

Manly McMacho · 2014-05-04 19:32:56

Meth: My anti-drug guilty pleasure

Momo from Dan Da Dan · 2014-05-04 19:33:34

Midnight Velvet's rotting corpse said:
The phrase "guilty pleasure" is awful

ye.

Largely it is a social construct that people use to help them deal with insecurity about what they like, which is not healthy.

Tachyon · 2014-05-04 19:37:17

mmm... i don't know, i definitely feel like i tend to overlook weaknesses in entertainment media i like, since i tend not to notice them until other people point them out to me

i also tend to fixate on particular things at length... maybe not to the extent that some people do (or am i just more ashamed of drawing attention to myself by posting about them?) and only becoming aware of their flaws once the shine has started to wear off

also i'm sorry but

Burgundy Queen said:
you're level-headed

Momo from Dan Da Dan · 2014-05-04 19:38:24

Tachyon said:
mmm... i don't know, i definitely feel like i tend to overlook weaknesses in entertainment media i like, since i tend not to notice them until other people point them out to me

i also tend to fixate on particular things at length... maybe not to the extent that some people do (or am i just more ashamed of drawing attention to myself by posting about them?) and only becoming aware of their flaws once the shine has started to wear off

that's actually quite normal.

Tachyon said:

Burgundy Queen said:
you're level-headed

I don't get why this is so funny, you seem pretty evened to me.

Tachyon · 2014-05-04 19:44:23

i get angry and upset about stupid things IRL like all the time

i'm not so bad as i used to be, but it's still bizarre to me when people online say i'm levelheaded

Manly McMacho · 2014-05-04 19:45:07

you're so head-leveled

One-Winged Eagle · 2014-05-04 20:06:10

FEEL

NO

GUILT

YOUR TASTE

SUPERIOR TO ALL TASTES

BECAUSE IT IS YOURS

NO GUILT

NO SHAME

ONLY PRIDE

(unless like you are obsessed with Custer's Revenge or something)

glennmagusharvey · 2014-05-04 20:24:43

Anonus said:
do you ever worry that you have bad or no taste in media?

No.

MetaFour · 2014-05-05 02:30:47

"Guilty pleasure" is a convenient shorthand for "I recognize that this work has flaws, and may even be something that most of my peers hate, but I enjoy it anyway".

Calling something good often carries an implied condemnation of anyone who dislikes it. Calling something a guilty pleasure doesn't carry that same baggage.

glennmagusharvey · 2014-05-05 02:36:11

It often also has the implication of acknowledging something about the work that isn't socially acceptable, beyond just a consideration of quality.

Tachyon · 2014-05-05 02:37:07

MetaFour said:
Calling something good often carries an implied condemnation of anyone who dislikes it.

D:

i was not aware of this

MetaFour · 2014-05-05 02:45:31

Maybe "often" is too strong. It really depends on the person.

Tachyon · 2014-05-05 02:47:31

i see

i don't think 'guilty pleasure' is such a terrible phrase, although i seldom use it because i try not to feel guilty about things i enjoy

One-Winged Eagle · 2014-05-05 03:01:19

I CONDEMN YOU ALL FOR LIKING THINGS THAT I THINK ARE SHIT

THINGS THAT I THINK ARE SHIT:

Fucking nothing.
Everything has a worthiness.
Everything that exists should exist.

Calica · 2014-05-05 03:03:59

what about racist tracts, @kingCrackers? personally I think those probably shouldn't exist

MetaFour · 2014-05-05 03:20:11

Yeah. I've reached a point where, in most media, I just don't care what anyone else thinks of my taste. If they're gonna think less of me for liking X, that's their problem, not mine.

Though there are some exceptions, I guess.

Momo from Dan Da Dan · 2014-05-05 03:20:23

That's something within a piece of media, he is saying that all media have some value.

MetaFour said:
Calling something good often carries an implied condemnation of anyone who dislikes it. Calling something a guilty pleasure doesn't carry that same baggage.

I really do not wish to engage in any behavior that perpetuates the mindset that there are Good Things and Bad Things and that there is no middle ground in between, and that both of these categories are set in stone.

★ ~ S U M M E R ✿ S A U S A G E ! ~ ★ · 2014-05-05 03:22:03

MetaFour said:
Yeah. I've reached a point where, in most media, I just don't care what anyone else thinks of my taste. If they're gonna think less of me for liking X, that's their problem, not mine.

Though there are some exceptions, I guess.

No one really cares how abnormal your tastes in porn are

MetaFour · 2014-05-05 03:23:47

Do you have any porn that simulates being in a meaningful relationship? That's my fetish.

Calica · 2014-05-05 03:27:57

MV's now gonna throw some homophobic slurs at you probably

Morven · 2014-05-05 03:58:18

There are, at least, written works that manage to be sexy in the context of a meaningful relationship.

One-Winged Eagle · 2014-05-05 04:22:21

Racist tracts need to exist because then we know what racist tracts look like.

Not to say we shouldn't try and make it so that more don't get made, just that the ones that do get made have a place with us as an evil thing.

Also we can laugh at them.

Tachyon · 2014-05-05 04:25:14

i take the opposite view that no media needs to exist and none of it has intrinsic value

i feel like that's a trivially true statement and people will roll their eyes at it but yeah

Anonus · 2014-05-05 04:26:46

some media needs to exist because its artist(s) needs for it to

Tachyon · 2014-05-05 04:30:24

that means the artist requires it

but the universe doesn't need it, or the artist

Anonus · 2014-05-05 04:33:49

well

I meant that they really really wanted for it to exist

Tachyon · 2014-05-05 04:36:57

i know

but i mean, the artist doesn't have to exist either, in the grand scheme of things

that's just a thing that happened

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