Dark [PHILOSOPHICAL CONCEPT]

edited 2013-07-27 22:25:41 in General
In this book, I will talk about how what is needed today is a Dark [PHILOSOPHICAL CONCEPT]. [PHILOSOPHICAL CONCEPT] is often seen as outmoded, but you will note that I added the word "dark" to [PHILOSOPHICAL CONCEPT] and will talk about vampires, zombies and neuroscience in relation to [PHILOSOPHICAL CONCEPT]. I believe that by doing so, I can open the world to a new vision of [PHILOSOPHICAL CONCEPT] as foreseen by [MINOR MYSTIC YOU'VE NEVER HEARD OF],[HORROR WRITER],[OTHER HORROR WRITER],[MINOR 19TH CENTURY SCIENTIST], and [ORIGINATOR OF PHILOSOPHICAL CONCEPT]. I believe that Dark [PHILOSOPHICAL CONCEPT] is the only philosophy fit to face the 21st century.

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  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Why do you read about these people and fixate on their writings?
  • My dreams exceed my real life

    Why do you read about these people and fixate on their writings?

    This isn't internet people, this is a weird trend in actual printed philosophy by people who are, or are in the process of becoming, professors
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    the dark side is easy and seductive
  • What I got from this: "Zombies are studying Neuroscience to learn how delicious brains taste, Vampires are studying ways to make themselves sparkle like a pretty diamond princess" 

  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Odradek said:

    Why do you read about these people and fixate on their writings?

    This isn't internet people, this is a weird trend in actual printed philosophy by people who are, or are in the process of becoming, professors
    Oh me, oh my.

    You know, I don't have a problem with discussing genre fiction (particularly speculative fiction) that exemplifies a particular angle on a philosophy; I am also perfectly fine with philosophies that take on a pessimistic or negative timbre. But prefixing everything with "Dark" and acting as if that sounds like anything but a cheap attention grab is just silly, as is acting as if that approach is anything new or exciting. Be more creative, at least...
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    But what are the werewolves doing?
  • But what are the werewolves doing?

    trying to find suitable fire hydrants.
  • My dreams exceed my real life

    Odradek said:

    Why do you read about these people and fixate on their writings?

    This isn't internet people, this is a weird trend in actual printed philosophy by people who are, or are in the process of becoming, professors
    Oh me, oh my.

    You know, I don't have a problem with discussing genre fiction (particularly speculative fiction) that exemplifies a particular angle on a philosophy; I am also perfectly fine with philosophies that take on a pessimistic or negative timbre. But prefixing everything with "Dark" and acting as if that sounds like anything but a cheap attention grab is just silly, as is acting as if that approach is anything new or exciting. Be more creative, at least...
    It's not all bad, but it gets a bit silly.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Some stuff along those lines could be pretty interesting if the author really knows what they're talking about. I mean, as I said, exploring what would generally be called "darker" philosophies through literature is a perfectly valid course of inquiry. I just think that the way that you describe it, a lot of these people are going about it in a way that smacks of miserablist fanboying.

    Which is a bit ironic, given that I am a miserablist fanboy myself. But I like to think that someone going for their professorship would have a better developed sense of intellectual decorum than I would.
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    Well there is a definite use of fiction for explication of philosophy. I've read about someone who uses China Mielville's sci-fi book Embassytown in a class about Sellars's views on language and it's relation to philosophy of the mind, philosophers love to use, Kafka, Borges, and Lewis Carrol to illustrate concepts in ethics, metaphysics, and philosophy of language respectively, and I like to use the part of Blood Meridian about Judge Holden catching birds to illustrate Heidegger's critique of enframing, and one of my favorite film critics can talk about the relationship between Burroughs, Cronenberg, and Deleuze all day as far as I'm concerned.

    It's lazy stuff like "Schelling believed life was something philosophy had to change it's assumptions to incorporate. Lovecraft wrote about incomprehensible space monsters, This is all part of my Dark Vitalism" that annoys me.
  • Man, professors are dorks

    They're only in their 30s. They're not all the way mature.

    Maturity?

    I think that's kind of overrated, most people mistake cynicism as maturity and that to me just sticks out that it's a vague inconsistent concept kept that way as to perpetuate being greater than you really are.

    Compare and contrast to Wisdom, which isn't all that hard to recognize, doesn't necessarily come in naturally as you age, and is used in an entirely different context than intellectualism.

    Also, words and more words.
  • I just mean that I can see a professor to be doing something like that.

    The two that I've met don't seem too different than their students, and that's often a ten year gap

  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    I could be a professor now, if I'd gone for it

    I would be the most grimdark professor ever
  • I could be a professor now, if I'd gone for it

    I would be the most grimdark professor ever

    You'd be the professor of Cows.

    Of Grimdark gritty and realistic Cows.
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    professor of the slaughterhouse
  • "It is a matter of grave importance that Fairy tales should be respected.... Whosoever alters them to suit his own opinions, whatever they are, is guilty, to our thinking, of an act of presumption, and appropriates to himself what does not belong to him." -- Charles Dickens
    Odradek said:

    Well there is a definite use of fiction for explication of philosophy. I've read about someone who uses China Mielville's sci-fi book Embassytown in a class about Sellars's views on language and it's relation to philosophy of the mind, philosophers love to use, Kafka, Borges, and Lewis Carrol to illustrate concepts in ethics, metaphysics, and philosophy of language respectively, and I like to use the part of Blood Meridian about Judge Holden catching birds to illustrate Heidegger's critique of enframing, and one of my favorite film critics can talk about the relationship between Burroughs, Cronenberg, and Deleuze all day as far as I'm concerned.

     
    And every philosopher from Hobbes on has to mention Don Quixote.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Odradek said:

    Well there is a definite use of fiction for explication of philosophy. I've read about someone who uses China Mielville's sci-fi book Embassytown in a class about Sellars's views on language and it's relation to philosophy of the mind, philosophers love to use, Kafka, Borges, and Lewis Carrol to illustrate concepts in ethics, metaphysics, and philosophy of language respectively, and I like to use the part of Blood Meridian about Judge Holden catching birds to illustrate Heidegger's critique of enframing, and one of my favorite film critics can talk about the relationship between Burroughs, Cronenberg, and Deleuze all day as far as I'm concerned.


    It's lazy stuff like "Schelling believed life was something philosophy had to change it's assumptions to incorporate. Lovecraft wrote about incomprehensible space monsters, This is all part of my Dark Vitalism" that annoys me.
    I agree with this.


    I could be a professor now, if I'd gone for it

    I would be the most grimdark professor ever

    I would love to sit in on one of your classes.
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    today's topic: is the mass killing of cows for hamburger meat symbolic of humanity's own self-destruction
  • today's topic: is the mass killing of cows for hamburger meat symbolic of humanity's own self-destruction

    Sounds alright, but I'd less say "Own self-destruction" and reword it to be "Cannibalistic tendencies"

    and then you segue from how we set up our bovine industry to how we set up our health-care and education systems and throw in images of how schools are set up like meat processing plants or something dark and gritty like that.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Counterclock is now the most metal poster on HH.
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    yeah, I can't really top that.
  • More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
    ko would you like to be a teacher? I would love to have you as a teacher.
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    I don't think I could endure it.
  • More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
    Me neither.
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    Dealing with the students, day in and day out...ugh
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    I would love being a professor or a lecturer, assuming that I could deal with the pressure of having to grade oodles of papers...
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    that too...ugh
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