It's very '60's, and yet also not. Messy yet skilfully so. I like it quite a bit. Not sure what to say in terms of constructive criticism, other than that I would raise thicken the drum sound a bit and sharpen the guitar tone in the clean bits.
it is hard to get a good drum sound when you only have 2 standard mics and 0 people with music production knowledge to work with. live drums are fiddly as hell. the drum track on that is one of the better-sounding recordings i have managed to do
btw vash i forgot to say but that old thing you put up is cool as hell. tasty beats
Considering sending it to Stripes when it's done. What do you guys think?
please tell me there's some more of that choral sample at the beginning because it's the fucking bomb
although maybe it is better just having it the once. hard to say without hearing it looped. anyway it's sick
i am not sure about the distorted guitar sample. your beat sounded better after it had dropped out. i reckon it could definitely work but it's not doing it for me right now
the choral sample is from a file labeled "hildegard_ordo_virtum_#2". There is more to it, and in fact, that odd strumming noise when the guitars drop out is from the same file.
something I had to download for music class.
I use that kind of guitar sample a lot, I might replace it or change the effect on it or just do something with it in general (this particular one is from "Bloody Hammer" by Roky Erickson).
this is filthy and angry and fucking great. can i have the other 23 minutes please
for real
it hasnt got so much structure to it (obviously) but, like, damn, i love the distorted bass, i love the beat, i love pretty much everything about it once it gets going, and most important it has more of its own sound than anything else ive heard from you. its fresh. do something with it. it's good
also i have locked myself in a basement with a keyboard and a violin for 2 weeks and i have 4 pieces im relatively happy with, at the moment. maybe in a month, or in some time, i might release a thing, just me, nobody ruining it by playing guitars, just goth-dance and olan-mill-style dronebient and synthesised-pan-flute-based hiphop. or maybe i won't release anything. we'll see
im not all that good with structuring stuff in general really, it's like the biggest problem i have and i'm not sure how to improve on that front
structure is usually what i deal with in a band as opposed to the melody. all the stuff ive done with the satellites, none of the riffs or anything is me, but i do all of the structuring. so i am going to tell you some shit about structure now which you can listen to, or not
okay: i like the very very beginning. it has a kind of lack of clarity that i like. but i'd say you only need a few bars of this before it should go into something bigger. like it takes more than a minute to get anywhere and the stuff ~1min has some problems with timing anyway. bring stuff in quicker. bring that bass in quickly especially bcos its got some damn power
im saying: ~10-20 secs of that. then bring the bass in. and when the bass comes in i think it would be good to have that hi-hat in as well. how things are 2 minutes in, that's how things should be by this point
i like having everything but the bass drop out, so you should keep that as a transition between the part i just mentioned and the part when the beat comes in
also i think having the new hi-hat rhythm come in before the rest of the beat is maybe unnecessary so i think you could probably drop that and just have it come in with the rest of the beat just straight out of the section where you've just got the bass.
and i like having the bass/drums stopping and just leaving that 'melody' hanging there. from there maybe i'd build it back into the beat idk you could even go quite a different direction from there if you could make it work who knows
i really liked wide ocean shot. probably my favourite single track on the album. maybe my favourite thing youve done. those hi hats are sick. it's a very gloopy track, and i mean that in the most positive way possible
tho i also really liked what you did in the little 'trilogy' of the two 'pipes' songs and Catholic, those 3 were nicely structured & put together. the first and last were both very solid standalone tracks but i feel the little one in the middle tied them together nicely and made them more than the sum of their parts
i felt a few of the later tracks maybe could have done w/ a bit more structure, i wasnt sure about the witch of appalachia (bringing in a sample from the same source as the first track is a nice touch but idk how well it fitted in really with the rest of the track, especially coming in so late in the song) though i absolutely loved the ending. great way to end the album
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Assassin poems, Poems that shoot
guns. Poems that wrestle cops into alleys
and take their weapons leaving them dead
Sounds very Mojave.
i, meanwhile, am still working in a dead genre. its fun tho. vocals are rough but i enjoyed doing the end (which isnt stitched together at all btw!!)
can't wait to hear more, I liked this one a lot ^_^
btw vash i forgot to say but that old thing you put up is cool as hell. tasty beats
I really wanna work with dude, but he's got awful timing
Considering sending it to Stripes when it's done. What do you guys think?
you would not believe how long that took
although maybe it is better just having it the once. hard to say without hearing it looped. anyway it's sick
i am not sure about the distorted guitar sample. your beat sounded better after it had dropped out. i reckon it could definitely work but it's not doing it for me right now
something I had to download for music class.
I use that kind of guitar sample a lot, I might replace it or change the effect on it or just do something with it in general (this particular one is from "Bloody Hammer" by Roky Erickson). thank you!
there is definitely an art to picking out samples and that one is really nicely done
might be from a hildegard von Bingen piece if it is called that
i did a bunch of drum programming last night and then i couldn't find anything to go with it so yeah
More of the sample is in the full track but you will have to wait to hear that until I show it to Stripes.
tunes made in sands
- Mojave Music (Long Version)
- Livin' & Dyin' Along The Bell-Vine Line (July 7th, 2007)
- Wide Ocean Shot
- HEATSTROKE (No Vox Version)
- Manticore
- The Beholder
- The Pipes of Astra-Khan
- The Pipes of Arling-Arkand
- Catholic
- Lost in C...ouds
- No Love / New Love
- The Witch of Appalachia
tunes left in sands -- scraps & outtakes- Skullboy (Montage)
- The Rat-Race 1988 / Invading in the Grave of Saints
- Throw Me Under! (My Darling Belle)
- Mojave Music (No Additional Drums)
- Half Dead on St. Cloud Street / It Was Too Hot That Summer
- Someday in the Rain Revisited
- Wide Ocean Shot (Pink Kokane Remix)
Beyond The Mojave (in production)- Beyond The Mojave
- Flagstaff?
- Dontcha Hear The Drummah Thuuumpin'?
- The Sun of Limbo (ft. Nick Reineke)
- I Feel Older
- Fifth Hand Summer (The Fifth Hand Mix)
misc. special releases:I'm genuinely curious how well those references in song titles come across. I'd love to hear if anyone gets any of them.
Get hype!
guys
it's happening this didn't happen because Bandcamp has not been cooperating.
Assassin poems, Poems that shoot
guns. Poems that wrestle cops into alleys
and take their weapons leaving them dead
I'll take a listen soon. :)
for real
it hasnt got so much structure to it (obviously) but, like, damn, i love the distorted bass, i love the beat, i love pretty much everything about it once it gets going, and most important it has more of its own sound than anything else ive heard from you. its fresh. do something with it. it's good
okay: i like the very very beginning. it has a kind of lack of clarity that i like. but i'd say you only need a few bars of this before it should go into something bigger. like it takes more than a minute to get anywhere and the stuff ~1min has some problems with timing anyway. bring stuff in quicker. bring that bass in quickly especially bcos its got some damn power
im saying: ~10-20 secs of that. then bring the bass in. and when the bass comes in i think it would be good to have that hi-hat in as well. how things are 2 minutes in, that's how things should be by this point
i like having everything but the bass drop out, so you should keep that as a transition between the part i just mentioned and the part when the beat comes in
also i think having the new hi-hat rhythm come in before the rest of the beat is maybe unnecessary so i think you could probably drop that and just have it come in with the rest of the beat just straight out of the section where you've just got the bass.
and i like having the bass/drums stopping and just leaving that 'melody' hanging there. from there maybe i'd build it back into the beat idk you could even go quite a different direction from there if you could make it work who knows
also sorry i took long to type that but i stopped midway through to try on some women's clothing.
Assassin poems, Poems that shoot
guns. Poems that wrestle cops into alleys
and take their weapons leaving them dead
but anyway thank you both for the feedback, it means a lot ^_^
I went for a very specific kind of sound with this one and I want to see if people pick up on it before I go saying what it is.
curious both as to who listened to the album and as to who listened to the monstrosity I posted yesterday
first track on my new computer, 20 minutes, all fl studio default plugins/samples