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What bugs me about that Ender Hitler essay

OdradekOdradek
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It treats non-consequentialist forms of ethics as fundamentally beyond the pale

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  • KlinotaxisKlinotaxis
    kill living beings
    seems... metaethical or whatever

    i mean, consequentialism makes sense to me in a similar way, but if i was evaluating someone's actions i'd want to know their motives, because that's more helpful for guessing their future behavior

    also, i think brains are basically wet computers and we'd be a lot smarter if we'd overclock them
  • Salix BabylonikaSalix Babylonika
    https://i.imgur.com/IoGc2jA.jpg
    fuck did you call me?
  • OdradekOdradek
    My dreams exceed my real life
    Klinotaxis said:

    seems... metaethical or whatever

    i mean, consequentialism makes sense to me in a similar way, but if i was evaluating someone's actions i'd want to know their motives, because that's more helpful for guessing their future behavior

    also, i think brains are basically wet computers and we'd be a lot smarter if we'd overclock them

    You are dangerously close to Big Yudding
  • KlinotaxisKlinotaxis
    kill living beings
    see the last line is supposed to be a self deprecating jab, because i'm talking about this ethics stuff i have very little knowledge of, and when people do that about something i do know about, i get mad
  • OdradekOdradek
    My dreams exceed my real life
    Jane said:

    fuck did you call me?

    I thought your name was Jane
  • TatterhoodTatterhood
    Odradek said:

    Jane said:

    fuck did you call me?

    I thought your name was Jane
    Jane "Jane" Enderhitler III
  • Salix BabylonikaSalix Babylonika
    https://i.imgur.com/IoGc2jA.jpg
    Odradek is that a reference 
  • OdradekOdradek
    My dreams exceed my real life
    The doctrine that the morality of an action is solely determined by the actor’s motive rests on a significant assumption: that the good always know what their motives are, and are never moved to do things for selfish reasons while yet thinking themselves moved by virtue

    Like this is just a non sequitur
  • Obā-sanObā-san
    edited 2016-12-28 01:11:26

    I remember reading this essay, but I remember literally nothing about it, save an involuntary feeling of smug vindication because the number one person I associate enders game with in my head was this one dude I was in middle/high school with who was a total dipshit
  • OdradekOdradek
    My dreams exceed my real life
    And that dude... was me!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • AlirozAliroz
    edited 2016-12-28 01:28:41
    ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)
    No Odra, it was... Your long-lost brother, GLYXIBOBBUFROP THE GRAND!
  • OdradekOdradek
    My dreams exceed my real life
    Honestly my main thought from that essay, aside from what I just said, is "I don't think this guy knows how thought experiments are supposed to work"
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