You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
Anyway I think beer is awful but don't conflate it with all alcohol, that's a little silly (barring alcohol itself just not being your thing in which case more power to you).
I really don't understand why people are (or claim to be) so mystified about different people enjoying different things, when the things are alcoholic
it's not really that it's that in my experience people get like really weirdly hostile if you're at a place where drinking alcohol is expected and you'd just rather not.
I'll be honest, I've said almost the exact quote in the subject. But not about beer. It was this dessert wine I had once at the estate of Lord Acton, and it was INCREDIBLE. There are some good dessert wines around here, but I've never had anything like that again.
(On the other hand, if you're ever in Portland? St Honore's is the best thing that's happened to my taste buds in terms of food.)
Mead is fantastic; it's the strength of a port wine without being too strong in flavour. Then there's always vodka, the Slavic army knife of mixers (your orange juice is now more fun). But my favoured alternative to beer is cider.
I drink a lot of soda. I've always though beer smelled nasty, and there's like one spirit I'm generally OK with, and then mainly as an ingredient in a pastry (dark rum).
I drink a lot of soda. I've always though beer smelled nasty, and there's like one spirit I'm generally OK with, and then mainly as an ingredient in a pastry (dark rum).
French bakery with amazing pastries. It's just, it's so good. Eating there really lifts my mood whenever I do, just because it's so filling and sweet and perfect it makes the entire world seem better.
The thing about beer for me is getting past the bitterness in the same way that grapefruit juice is, and that can be hard for me. The base flavor can be great, but it's always about getting past that bite.
For the record, my tastes tack toward the hard and snooty where alcohol is concerned. But it's not even about that. There is good beer out there, but it is hard to find and usual (but far from always) expensive.
I really don't understand why people are (or claim to be) so mystified about different people enjoying different things, when the things are alcoholic
It has to do with people describing beer as an "acquired taste", rather than having to do with it having alcohol.
ok but like lots of things are acquired tastes and most of them don't get the "actually everyone is just lying about liking this" treatment
maybe coffee does, sometimes
Exactly.
It's such a condescending and vaguely mean-spirited attitude with zero understanding of the fact that other people might enjoy things for different reasons from you.
I have already explained my "problem" (it's not really a problem except in the rare instance when I go to a party, where I usually have to explain to about 30 distinct people that no, I won't be drinking, yes I'm sure) with the whole thing.
I really don't understand why people are (or claim to be) so mystified about different people enjoying different things, when the things are alcoholic
It has to do with people describing beer as an "acquired taste", rather than having to do with it having alcohol.
ok but like lots of things are acquired tastes and most of them don't get the "actually everyone is just lying about liking this" treatment
maybe coffee does, sometimes
well, there's marmite
for what it's worth, I don't like coffee or beer, I like tea but I don't drink it much, used to dislike cilantro but am okay with it now, tend toward disliking spicy food and sour foods (but recognize that they can add interesting flavors to a dish), can tolerate bitter melon, can tolerate but dislike caramel and dark chocolate, enjoy canned tuna and canned sardines and am okay being in the presence of people consuming them, enjoy the taste of lamb, and have no opinion on any of the following: lutefisk, marmite, durian, natto, surströmming, etc.
Yeah see bread tastes like flour, which is bland but not particularly gross. You can eat raw wheat and tastes pretty okay.
When's the last time you ate hops? Or took a swig of ethanol? Because whoever thought it was a good idea to combine two caustically bitter ingredients should probably be bludgeoned with his entire distillery. There's a reason fucking nobody uses hops for anything but beer.
It's worth noting that most herbs from which teas are made can be very, very bitter when left to sit for too long, let alone ferment. So I see where you're coming from. But I have very sensitive tastebuds when it comes to bitterness, and you probably do, too. And I've never found alcohol itself an issue: I like some very strong, caustic liquors.
i forget, IPAs are the ones that have just way too much fucking hops, right?
It's more like the ones that have way too much hops are generally IPAs. There are IPAs that aren't horribly hoppy (though mileage varies on how much hops is too much).
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(On the other hand, if you're ever in Portland? St Honore's is the best thing that's happened to my taste buds in terms of food.)
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I drink a lot of soda. I've always though beer smelled nasty, and there's like one spirit I'm generally OK with, and then mainly as an ingredient in a pastry (dark rum).
(The other Jane)
For the record, my tastes tack toward the hard and snooty where alcohol is concerned. But it's not even about that. There is good beer out there, but it is hard to find and usual (but far from always) expensive.
maybe coffee does, sometimes
Exactly.
It's such a condescending and vaguely mean-spirited attitude with zero understanding of the fact that other people might enjoy things for different reasons from you.
for what it's worth, I don't like coffee or beer, I like tea but I don't drink it much, used to dislike cilantro but am okay with it now, tend toward disliking spicy food and sour foods (but recognize that they can add interesting flavors to a dish), can tolerate bitter melon, can tolerate but dislike caramel and dark chocolate, enjoy canned tuna and canned sardines and am okay being in the presence of people consuming them, enjoy the taste of lamb, and have no opinion on any of the following: lutefisk, marmite, durian, natto, surströmming, etc.
Bread.
It is the beverage equivalent of bread, particularly brown bread.
beer is piss that tastes bad
beer is nonetheless bad
It's worth noting that most herbs from which teas are made can be very, very bitter when left to sit for too long, let alone ferment. So I see where you're coming from. But I have very sensitive tastebuds when it comes to bitterness, and you probably do, too. And I've never found alcohol itself an issue: I like some very strong, caustic liquors.
There is a lot of salt in this thread. Maybe it can be used to sweeten the bitterness of these beverages.