I wish I were more into superhero comics

I am too lazy/occupied with other things to bother with them much of the time, but I feel like I should be into them given their current cultural dominance.

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  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    Not really those parts
  • For once, or maybe twice, I was in my prime.
    Their current cultural dominance is due to superhero movies, not the comics.
  • kill living beings
    Why. Have you seen superhero comics. They are empty
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    MetaFour said:

    Their current cultural dominance is due to superhero movies, not the comics.

    The comics are now just a testing and breeding ground for stuff they don't want to risk on movies yet.

    "What if we made Thor a lady? Good, good"

    "What if we made Captain America a nazi? Okay don't try that on the films, but the ultranerds who buy our comics are going to keep buying them forever regardless so no actual harm done"
  • Superhero comics are trash. Utter, utter trash and I love them.
  • edited 2016-06-25 16:16:08
    Even the good ones are trash. 

    Sandman was a really gripping depiction of the human condition, being one of the few 90s comics to seriously take advantage of their newfound ability to deal with mature themes. 

    But it also had Brute and Glob, and the DREAM DOME of all things. So yeah, pretty stupid.
  • All things are stupid if you refuse to accept their genre conventions.

    (this is why some people, some horrifically boring people, don't read genre fiction)
  • Those peoples' lives must be incredibly dull and boring.
  • The only superhero comic series I read is The Umbrella Academy.

    Fucking awesome.
  • kill living beings
    Superhero comics aren't bad because of conventions like that. They're bad cause as they change writers the new ones are forced to use, and often greatly change, existing characters, and conform to years and years of "continuity" that don't actually mesh with what people want to write.

    Dr Two Apes all the way down
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    Jane said:

    All things are stupid if you refuse to accept their genre conventions.


    (this is why some people, some horrifically boring people, don't read genre fiction)
    Nobody does that anymore

    The reverse is way common though
  • Jane said:

    DC Rebirth was good.

    I once again recommend Tom King's The Vision.

    It is technically not a typical superhero fight-em-up, but it managed to make me care about a character that I would normally give zero cares about.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    It's a pretty old-fashioned view, but generally i think the complaint was that genre fiction was formulaic, and therefore boring, rather than stupid.

    Having said that i don't remember ever meeting anyone who wouldn't read any genre fiction.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    There are people who claim that genre fiction is escapist fluff that doesn't speak to the human condition, but most of those people have now turned to proclaiming that people should only read non-fiction because anything that isn't factually true can't give you insight into how the world really works and serves only to distract from reality.

    I think you can figure out how I feel about these attitudes without me having to spell them out.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    I like to read... :<
  • Me too... :<
  • you are allowed to read inspirational cat stories
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch

    There are people who claim that genre fiction is escapist fluff that doesn't speak to the human condition, but most of those people have now turned to proclaiming that people should only read non-fiction because anything that isn't factually true can't give you insight into how the world really works and serves only to distract from reality.

    I think you can figure out how I feel about these attitudes without me having to spell them out.

    The first part sounds sort of like the critical movement sometimes (slightly pejoratively) termed 'liberal humanism', but i wasn't aware of them having mutated into a movement that denounces all of fiction.  Can you elaborate, please?
  • Munch munch, chomp chomp...

    you are allowed to read inspirational cat stories

    How dare you not include inspirational bird stories.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Tachyon said:

    There are people who claim that genre fiction is escapist fluff that doesn't speak to the human condition, but most of those people have now turned to proclaiming that people should only read non-fiction because anything that isn't factually true can't give you insight into how the world really works and serves only to distract from reality.

    I think you can figure out how I feel about these attitudes without me having to spell them out.

    The first part sounds sort of like the critical movement sometimes (slightly pejoratively) termed 'liberal humanism', but i wasn't aware of them having mutated into a movement that denounces all of fiction.  Can you elaborate, please?

    There's a somewhat infamous Guardian article where one of their op-ed people proclaimed that she had stopped reading fiction because the stories weren't about real people and that people should be obliged to read non-fiction because they need to know about how the world really works and facts and I can't even pretend any of this isn't remarkably pretentious and more indicative of the person's issues than anything with fiction as an art-form (or non-fiction, for that matter). I'm being a little tongue-in-cheek saying that it comes out of the "all good fiction must be as realistic as possible" mentality, but honestly, it's a weirdly similar mindset. It's like how certain hardline socialist groups in England saw punk music as a revolutionary tool but had no real understanding of the culture or the musical landscape: These people seem to understand writing about "the truth" in the same literalistic terms.
  • My dreams exceed my real life

    Tachyon said:

    There are people who claim that genre fiction is escapist fluff that doesn't speak to the human condition, but most of those people have now turned to proclaiming that people should only read non-fiction because anything that isn't factually true can't give you insight into how the world really works and serves only to distract from reality.

    I think you can figure out how I feel about these attitudes without me having to spell them out.

    The first part sounds sort of like the critical movement sometimes (slightly pejoratively) termed 'liberal humanism', but i wasn't aware of them having mutated into a movement that denounces all of fiction.  Can you elaborate, please?

    There's a somewhat infamous Guardian article where one of their op-ed people proclaimed that she had stopped reading fiction because the stories weren't about real people and that people should be obliged to read non-fiction because they need to know about how the world really works and facts and I can't even pretend any of this isn't remarkably pretentious and more indicative of the person's issues than anything with fiction as an art-form (or non-fiction, for that matter). I'm being a little tongue-in-cheek saying that it comes out of the "all good fiction must be as realistic as possible" mentality, but honestly, it's a weirdly similar mindset. It's like how certain hardline socialist groups in England saw punk music as a revolutionary tool but had no real understanding of the culture or the musical landscape: These people seem to understand writing about "the truth" in the same literalistic terms.
    Wasn't that Liam Gallagher?
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    If it was then he was not the subject, just the author.
  • We can do anything if we do it together.
    It looks like you're both right.
  • It looks like you're both right.

    I'm fuckin screaming
  • kill living beings
    What the hell.
  • Munch munch, chomp chomp...
    What tools.
  • "I only read real things that are true, not fake things that aren't" said the unusually petulant 3rd grade gifted student
  • their favorite rap album is "The Truest Shit I Ever Wrote" by C-Murder
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”

    It looks like you're both right.

    I'm fuckin screaming

    That second article was the one I was thinking of, and it is literally those two dubious views of fiction verbatim coming from the same person in the same thinkpiece. It's repellant.
  • I'm trying to think of some good comics to recommend to you Anonus, but I'm coming up blank.

    Maybe Runaways? Runaways was just really good in general though.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Doom Patrol and Animal Man, but that's like asking for magical girl shows and saying Madoka Magica or something: Correct, and a solid recommendation, but entirely beside the point.
  • edited 2016-06-25 20:03:26
    Munch munch, chomp chomp...
    I just read both of those articles to give them a fair shake. I'll just say this.
    Crystal said:

    What tools.

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