What the fuck happened to self-help gurus

there seem to be so few/none now, that or I somehow never hear about them

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  • kill living beings
    eaten
  • THIS MACHINE KILLS FASCISTS
    Short answer: they just aren't cool anymore

    Long answer: Psychology and psychiatry becoming more socially acceptable, and the rather ignominious end of a lot of the self-awareness movements of the 1970s and 1980s (and the fact that a lot of the health-related ones were tied to fad diets) had a lot to do with this.
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    That makes sense.

    I don't know, I don't MISS them, but I was thinking about how like ever since Oprah left the stage, the daytime talk show has become a dying breed. Ellen's is like the only one that has been on for more than one season, aside from NBCU's trash talkers
  • THIS MACHINE KILLS FASCISTS
    There was a time when it seemed everyone was launching new shows, only for them to nor get renewed for a second season. (Also, consider that Oprah's closest competition, Donahue, left the air in the early 1990s, and left a vacuum of his own. the Multimedia shows became much more low-brow after his show ended.)
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    The '90s were so crazy

    South Park took that to its logical conclusion

    JEEEEEEEEEEESUS CHRIST
  • Munch munch, chomp chomp...
    They moved elsewhere as far as I can tell.
  • everyone got so good at helping themselves that they werent needed anymore
  • ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)
    Nonny...

    The nineties were amazing, and South Park took nothing to its logical conclusion except the degree to which people were willing to put up with depravity and humor on television.
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    I know they were amazing!

    I know you don't like Matt and Trey, but I always appreciated South Park because the creators were from my neck of the woods and showed it
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    I honestly think the '90s were a serious mixed bag, and viewing the whole of the period through rose-coloured glasses, even in terms of pop culture, strikes me as a really simplistic way to look at things. It's like that one Tumblr post said: It's great to love poodle skirts and Studebakers, but that's not the same as saying that the '50s were great *as a whole.*
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    maybe I have a case of rose-colored glasses because of how I always view the ethos of the '90s as having been ripped away from me too early (I was seven when 9/11 happened)
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    the 90s had no ethos, it was just a bunch of stuff that happened.
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    do you think any decade had an ethos?
  • the idea of a decade having a unified ethos is absurd, it's something slapped on an arbitrary stretch of time post-facto
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    But see, you're acting like "the ethos of the '90s" is a thing that existed or was one thing because you weren't there in any meaningful way. Decades are just periods in time, which are defined by what happens in them. So you missed out on the way the culture was during the Clinton presidency, for better or worse. So what? Yes, 9/11 changed things for the worse with respect to flag-waving bullsha and the like, but a Bush presidency still would have sucked, and none of this has much to do with when Rocko's Modern Life was on or when Crystal Pepsi was in circulation or whatever.
  • My dreams exceed my real life

    the idea of a decade having a unified ethos is absurd, it's something slapped on an arbitrary stretch of time post-facto

    The Owl of Minerva only flies at dusk.
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat

    the idea of a decade having a unified ethos is absurd, it's something slapped on an arbitrary stretch of time post-facto

    that makes sense

    But see, you're acting like "the ethos of the '90s" is a thing that existed or was one thing because you weren't there in any meaningful way. Decades are just periods in time, which are defined by what happens in them. So you missed out on the way the culture was during the Clinton presidency, for better or worse. So what? Yes, 9/11 changed things for the worse with respect to flag-waving bullsha and the like, but a Bush presidency still would have sucked, and none of this has much to do with when Rocko's Modern Life was on or when Crystal Pepsi was in circulation or whatever.

    yeah you're probably right

    it doesn't help that I haven't completely nailed down what the general feeling of this decade is yet
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    I don't know

    The '90s seem like they were more fun than the 2000s, or the 2010s
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    This is how all periods of time you weren't there for seem
  • Decades are only defined in retrospect.
  • edited 2016-06-12 20:59:00
    “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    ^^^ It's because there was more money in the economy to throw at dumb shit, the Internet was new, and you weren't there so you only know what either survived, dug up, or experienced as a wee child.

    This was the time of Newt Gingrich and Dennis Hastert, DOMA, NAFTA, the Lewinski scandal, the murder of Princess Diana by paparazzi, the Bosnian War, and all the insane shit that happened after the USSR finally died.
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    Jane said:

    Decades are only defined in retrospect.

    Odradek said:

    the idea of a decade having a unified ethos is absurd, it's something slapped on an arbitrary stretch of time post-facto

    The Owl of Minerva only flies at dusk.

  • Odradek said:

    Jane said:

    Decades are only defined in retrospect.

    Odradek said:

    the idea of a decade having a unified ethos is absurd, it's something slapped on an arbitrary stretch of time post-facto

    The Owl of Minerva only flies at dusk.

    Spanish Stroll
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    Spanish Stroll
  • ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)
    Oh good.  I'm glad we're not allowed to like decades or have feelings about them, or have narratives.

    Thanks guys.
  • kill living beings
    it's not "not allowed", it's just silly
  • ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)
    Dang, that makes you guys sound way more reasonable.

    I apologize.
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