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  • Dark was strangely special and Poison strangely physical.

    And strangest of all is Ghost being physical.
  • Slash is definitely better, yeah.

    I'm also not really sure why you want both Hydro Pump and Surf, but I guess if you refuse to use TMs (???) there's not much else to do.

    Surf is there so I have a workhorse water attack and a required HM move. Hydro Pump because it's just too awesome.

    Speaking of Rage, the idea there was to have Rage face off against the likes of Fury Cutter and Rollout. That said, apparently Rage only goes up to six stages of attack increases, which IIRC only goes as far as like 4x or something, while those other ones go up to 16x.
  • BeeBee
    edited 2016-07-13 16:45:27

    Slash is definitely better, yeah.

    I'm also not really sure why you want both Hydro Pump and Surf, but I guess if you refuse to use TMs (???) there's not much else to do.

    5 PP on your only STAB attack is fine in multiplayer.  Dungeons full of trainers, not so much.

    It's actually a really good idea in the Mystery Dungeon games to double up on STAB attacks for this reason.  The more recent ones tweak the damage formula and lessen type impact enough that STAB often winds up hitting harder than type advantage anyway -- even before things like Type Bulldozer come in.
  • Is there any place in the multiplayer scene where endurance runs are a thing?  Like, battling multiple opposing trainers in a row?
  • Splat Charger Specialist
    In Crystal, they introduced the battle tower. But I dunno which version you're playing. Why?
  • edited 2016-07-13 17:23:09

    In Crystal, they introduced the battle tower. But I dunno which version you're playing. Why?

    Because having to deal with a long series of encounters in a row is more like the game's typical gameplay, than the one-at-a-time prize-matches that I imagine the multiplayer scene to be.

    and I'm playing Crystal right now, but that was a general question.
  • edited 2016-07-13 17:26:42
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    The thing is, multiplayer matches are a lot more lethal than AI trainers. An AI trainer isn't gonna spring an EV trained Air Balloon Heatran or Life Orb Technician Scizor on you.
  • True.

    Also the fact that everything can be leveled up means that everything is at level 100.
  • things that are not pokémon:

    Zenyatta (racehorse or overwatch character)
  • Just you wait, Game Freak will prove you wrong in a Generation or two. :V
  • Splat Charger Specialist
    It is the year 2096. Pokemon's 50th generation arrives.

    All is pokemon. The earth is paradise. Children can leave home for days and know they can return safely at any time.

    All intellectual properties are owned by the pokemon corporation. Pokemon replace animals in their entirety. Even Digimon also had pokemon.

    The first mission to mars launches, the pokemon world seeks to bring its greatest creation to the stars as an ambassador of peace.
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    And Carnivine is still garbage.
  • Splat Charger Specialist
    still no Farfetch'd Evolution either, regrettably.
  • And over 50 Pikachu clones.
  • TRON Pikachu!
    Melty Plastic Pikachu!
    Ceiling Pikachu!
    Inside-out Pikachu!
    Pizza-chu!

    WE'VE GOT A MILLION OF THEM GUYS
  • so i just googled pizzachu and apparently that is many times over a thing
  • edited 2016-07-13 20:33:18
    Bee said:

    so i just googled pizzachu and apparently that is many times over a thing

    left half: cheese

    right half: pepperoni only

    special instructions: separate the two halves with a line of olives
  • No, the pepperoni is the cheek pouches.
  • BeeBee
    edited 2016-07-14 01:41:03
    Finished Super Mystery Dungeon.  That...was a suitably epic climax.  I feel like the weakest part of the other games was that the final boss was basically just "throw some debilitating seed, wail the shit out of them, and finish the fight before the soundtrack gets 20 seconds in".  They went to great pains to avoid that here -- you actually had to buff up and stick out a multi-phase boss.

    I also love how technically you're not the hero -- your partner is.  They foreshadow it surprisingly well.

    What I don't love is that apparently saving the entire fucking world isn't worth any rank points.
  • Bee said:

    I feel like the weakest part of the other games was that the final boss was basically just "throw some debilitating seed and wail the shit out of them". 

    excuse you, rayquaza spinning in circles tripping absolute fucking balls while i murdered the shit out of him is one of my fondest video game memories
  • I'd probably have fonder memories of doing that to Primal Dialga, but his music is way better and I'd at least like to have heard a minute or so of it before the fight abruptly ended.
  • BeeBee
    edited 2016-07-16 01:09:45
    My hobby: putting Barrage emera on a Sneasel and spamming Fury Swipes.

    My other hobby: banking all but 2k gold, finding a shop selling a reusable Overheat TM for 5.2k, and having to sell literally all my gear including my XP looplet to (BARELY) afford it.  I mean I was at the end of the dungeon and I'm not exactly hurting for wands and seeds and stuff, but I liked that looplet :(

    Hobby #3: Putting Barrage, Excessive Force, and Discharge on a Lanturn, then walking into a Monster House and exploding half the room in one turn.  All I was missing was Type Bulldozer just to make it extra egregious.

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  • tyranitar's gsc sprite is pudgy

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  • edited 2016-07-16 08:20:32
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  • tee hee

    he's cute :>
  • BeeBee
    edited 2016-07-16 07:26:39
    Sahra Town has an Arabic name and aesthetic, but American Southwest style music.  This confuses me.
  • all deserts are actually the same place
  • fight. dream. horse. love.
    pretty sure that's canon in The Sandman
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    I mean, have you ever seen the Sahara and the Atacama in the same place at the same time? It's so obvious!
  • Munch munch, chomp chomp...
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    Your reaction when.
  • In all the Pokemon games I've played, I've yet to see a single shiny other than the red Gyarados.
  • Bee said:

    In all the Pokemon games I've played, I've yet to see a single shiny other than the red Gyarados.

    yeah same

    (well, I have also hacked some, in my life)
  • edited 2016-07-16 18:38:04

    both in Silver (GBC, not Soul Silver), a Seaking and and Ekans
  • Bee said:

    In all the Pokemon games I've played, I've yet to see a single shiny other than the red Gyarados.

    where is there a guaranteed red gyarados?
  • Silver was for the regular gameboy color.

    Funnily enough that's also where I found my only non-scripted shiny. A Caterpie.

  • Bee said:

    In all the Pokemon games I've played, I've yet to see a single shiny other than the red Gyarados.

    where is there a guaranteed red gyarados?
    in gold and silver there's a red gyrados in a lake

  • Bee said:

    In all the Pokemon games I've played, I've yet to see a single shiny other than the red Gyarados.

    where is there a guaranteed red gyarados?
    In Johto, I don't remember where exactly but iirc it's a plot thing that you can't miss, at least in HGSS. (I never played second gen.)
  • Munch munch, chomp chomp...
    In all three games, actually. But yeah, it's in the Lake of Rage, just before the battle at Team Rocket HQ in Mahogany Town.
  • Jane said:

    Silver was for the regular gameboy color.


    Funnily enough that's also where I found my only non-scripted shiny. A Caterpie.
    Gold and Silver are compatible with original GB (and Super GB for SNES).

    Crystal isn't.  It's GBC only.

    ...except for some reason I kinda remember once getting my Crystal cart to run on either my GB or my SGB...
  • fight. dream. horse. love.
    There are very few things on this planet more annoying than a Pokemon breaking out of an Ultra Ball after NO SHAKING with PRACTICALLY ZERO HEALTH

    *is trying to catch a Lugia*

  • Sup bitches, witches, Haters, and trolls.
    aren't legendaries pretty much impossible to catch without the master ball
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    There are very few things on this planet more annoying than a Pokemon breaking out of an Ultra Ball after NO SHAKING with PRACTICALLY ZERO HEALTH

    *is trying to catch a Lugia*

    Catching a 1 HP statusless Lugia with an Ultra Ball is like, a 6% chance. (Use Dusk Balls.)
  • edited 2016-07-16 23:56:47
    I caught a celebi with a great ball

    but lol yeah

    http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_Pokémon_by_catch_rate

    strangely enough, celebi's catch rate is 45, as is mew's, while mewtwo, lugia, ho-oh, articuno, zapdos, moltres, etc. are all 3
  • edited 2016-07-17 00:17:20

    Offense

    Ghost-type Pokémon are used mainly to inflict status effects, like confusion or burn. Contrary to Dark-types, most Ghost-type Pokémon are special attackers due to their typically high Special Attack, despite the fact that Ghost-type moves were physical moves prior to Generation IV.

    In Generation I, there were no types that resisted Ghost-type moves, although there was only one move that would be affected by same-type attack bonus. In Generation II, Steel and Dark were added in order to resist Ghost-type moves. As of Generation VI,
    the only differences between Dark and Ghost is that Dark-type moves are
    not very effective on Fighting or Fairy while Ghost-type moves do
    normal damage to those types, and Ghost-type moves do not affect Normal
    Pokémon.

    Ghost-type moves are great for neutral coverage, as Steel-type
    Pokémon no longer resist them in Generation VI. No Pokémon resists a
    combination of Fighting and Ghost-type moves, as the only combination capable of this (Normal/Ghost) has never materialized. A combination of Fairy
    and Ghost-type moves has nearly as good coverage, only resisted by
    Normal types with a secondary type that resist Fairy, of which there are
    currently only two. Despite this, Ghost types do not have reliable damaging moves that have 100 or more base power.

    (source: http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Ghost_(type)#Trivia )


    > the only combination capable of this (Normal/Ghost) has never materialized.

    > Ghost

    > materialized



  • edited 2016-07-17 00:28:51
    Come to think of it...



    Anyone remember this?  As in, Sabrina from the first series of the Pokémon TV series.

    If she was like this from childhood, one seriously wonders what the fuck the Kanto League staff were thinking in letting Sabrina staff a gym.

    Alternatively, she was a commanding presence before the League was formed.

    Meanwhile, in cartoon-land, Haunter causes people to fall to their not-deaths, and it's perfectly okay.
  • Why do they even call it a "Marsh Badge"?  It's given out by a psychic-type gym, and has little to do with water or grass.

    Meanwhile, it turns out that Haunter never actually used a ghost-type attack on a psychic-type pokémon, so the show technically never violated the game's bugged-up type chart in this instance...even though it just spent three episodes telling kids that ghosts beat psychics.
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    Why do they even call it a "Marsh Badge"?  It's given out by a psychic-type gym, and has little to do with water or grass.

    Meanwhile, it turns out that Haunter never actually used a ghost-type attack on a psychic-type pokémon, so the show technically never violated the game's bugged-up type chart in this instance...even though it just spent three episodes telling kids that ghosts beat psychics.

    Clearly Koga secretly swapped their badges.
  • Calica said:

    aren't legendaries pretty much impossible to catch without the master ball

    Not remotely impossible, just very irritating (there are more legendaries than master balls, for one).  Against a sleeping legendary with 1 HP you usually have to throw like 25 ultra balls on average.  Dusk balls at night work noticeably better, but you still have to expect to tank a lot of very hard hits.
  • fight. dream. horse. love.

    I caught a celebi with a great ball

    but lol yeah

    I caught a Mewtwo with a Great Ball in Pokemon X, I still don't know how it happened
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