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  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Jane said:

    I admit, I do find this conversation just a tad frustrating.


    Not because of anything about Daveed Diggs or Clipping particularly but it feels sometimes like our musical tastes only overlap at the fringes.

    Like I'm not sure we'd have much to talk about wrt to Lil Wayne or something.

    I can sympathise.
    Jane said:

    I think being friends involves sharing commonalities as opposed to like, sharing everything

    heck, even with like sredni and I where we have a bunch of overlap generally speaking our core listening doesn't overlap all that much

    yeah, I know

    I just wish I could get you guys into DOOM or something but that would involve me being pushy, and I don't like doing that cuz I don't like having it done to me.

    You know, I have been meaning to listen to DOOM forever but never have for some reason. Same with El-P, who I am even more interested in.
  • I would listen to el-p and doom more often if I owned albums of theirs, which I prolly will at some point
  • We can do anything if we do it together.

    I think being friends involves sharing commonalities as opposed to like, sharing everything

    heck, even with like sredni and I where we have a bunch of overlap generally speaking our core listening doesn't overlap all that much

    Me and Edlyn are basically the same, so...
  • there is sosossoosososossoooooo sooooooooooooo much music I have not yet acquired
  • the good thing about MF DOOM's discography is that there's a lot of good places to start. 

    Operation....DOOMsday, MM....Food, Vaudeville Villain, Madvillainy, and The Mouse & The Mask are all perfectly fine places to start.

    El-P your choices are basically either Funcrusher Plus with Company Flow or Fantastic Damage. Reeeeeeeeeeeally don't recommend starting with RTJ.
  • We can do anything if we do it together.
    Run The Jewels have never particularly grabbed me, for whatever reason.

    I already know I have to check out El-P's own solo work, however.
  • this is certainly the weirdest song involving MF DOOM


  • edited 2016-01-03 10:01:44
    “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Jane said:

    yeah CLPPNG was the one with the wire mesh on the cover. Didn't really care for it as I recall.


    Alas.

    The song I asked you to check out is even more recent, so maybe you'll like their next one? I live in hope, because I like being able to share stuff like this with you but sometimes... I'll be honest: I get wary that you'll think my opinions are wrong or ill-informed or just stupid, even if that wouldn't happen.
  • Jane said:

    yeah CLPPNG was the one with the wire mesh on the cover. Didn't really care for it as I recall.


    Alas.

    The song I asked you to check out is even more recent, so maybe you'll like their next one? I live in hope, because I like being able to share stuff like this with you but sometimes... I'll be honest: I get wary that you'll think my opinions are wrong or ill-informed or just stupid, even if that wouldn't happen.
    I have very strong opinions on hip-hop music and I think sometimes it comes across as more aggressive than I intend it to.

    It's kind of a thing you have to do in a lot of rap discussion circles or else people will just downshout you.
  • edited 2016-01-03 10:05:06
    “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Jane said:

    the good thing about MF DOOM's discography is that there's a lot of good places to start. 


    Operation....DOOMsday, MM....Food, Vaudeville Villain, Madvillainy, and The Mouse & The Mask are all perfectly fine places to start.

    El-P your choices are basically either Funcrusher Plus with Company Flow or Fantastic Damage. Reeeeeeeeeeeally don't recommend starting with RTJ.

    I liked the first Run The Jewels, actually. Still haven't gotten around to the second.

    ^ I don't like places where people do that. But I understand.
  • I liked the first and then didn't like the second
  • it's good it's just not really in the same area as El-P's solo work.

    Has more in common with Killer Mike's who I couldn't tell you nearly as much about.
  • We can do anything if we do it together.
    Yeah, perhaps I should take a full listen to the first RTJ album later.
  • RTJ1 has a lot of good quotables on it.

    you don't wanna look into my big crystal balls

    suck the future.
  • rap discussion does seem very shouty in general

    not sure if more/less shouty than metal?
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Jane said:

    it's good it's just not really in the same area as El-P's solo work.


    Has more in common with Killer Mike's who I couldn't tell you nearly as much about.

    I'm aware that it's a bit of a departure given his work with, say, Cannibal Ox, or my limited exposure to his solo work and guest spots. Regardless, what I've gathered is that the man is a very talented producer and a really clever lyricist who does not take himself seriously. Which is nice.
  • rap discussion does seem very shouty in general

    not sure if more/less shouty than metal?

    lots of memes and discussion of who the GOAT is.

    it can get tiring which is why I ocasionally go off about Drake stans but honestly when it's good it's very good and you can learn a lot if you're willing to dig through the noise.
  • We can do anything if we do it together.
    I feel like if I were to dig into rap discussions I'd get annoyed by all the Kanye stans pretty quickly, although maybe that's just Reddit.
  • edited 2016-01-03 10:12:29

    tell you what though: nothing prepares you for electronic music discourse, which is always either 100% chill people who like finding good vibes or people who are always 6000% SCREAMING INSANITY AND INSULTS over thing which are blatantly subjective
  • I feel like if I were to dig into rap discussions I'd get annoyed by all the Kanye stans pretty quickly, although maybe that's just Reddit.

    Kanye stans are mostly just funny.

    OH

    I SHOULD LINK THE CARTER 5 PROPHECY

    THAT'S A LIL WAYNE THING BUT IT'S STILL REALLY FUNNY HOLD ON
  • and the insulting people very blatantly and openly flat out do not care about the actual quality of the music
  • edited 2016-01-03 10:14:42
    We can do anything if we do it together.
    Jane said:
    Okay, that is fairly amusing.
  • Jane said:
    this is the best Reddit post I've ever seen
  • Lil Wayne is actually one of my favorite rappers.

    I consider him and MF DOOM to be sort of evil twins of each other, stylistically.
  • I mostly know Lil Wayne as The Man 15 Year Old Boys Who Love Guns'n'Roses Hate
  • I don't even know how to get someone into Lil Wayne honestly

  • maybe just listen to him rapping over "Shoulder Lean"
  • We can do anything if we do it together.

    I mostly know Lil Wayne as The Man 15 Year Old Boys Who Love Guns'n'Roses Hate

    Same.

    I am also honestly quite repulsed by what I've heard of his stuff, although that was admittedly all the later radio-played stuff, so it's likely I'm missing something.
  • oh

    yeah uh

    Lil Wayne is very......

    lewd.........?

    as far as subject matter goes he doesn't have much range. He's a rapper where what he says is subservient to how he's saying it.
  • now I am thinking about PC Music for whatever reason

    and how like, every single article about them is about how they are ultra-divisive deconstructive avant-garde pseudopop geniuses when in reality it's a bunch of earnest dorks who really, genuinely love 2000s pop music + aesthetics and experimental electronic music and like to mash them together with earnestness and a good sense of humor
  • Jane said:

    oh


    yeah uh

    Lil Wayne is very......

    lewd.........?
    the word lewd is permanently linked with ecchi comedy mangas
  • Jane said:

    oh


    yeah uh

    Lil Wayne is very......

    lewd.........?
    the word lewd is permanently linked with ecchi comedy mangas
    he

    he kind of

    is the rap version of an ecchi manga??? sometimes???? at least when he's on his sex raps

    the rap version of a hentai manga would be Too $hort.
  • now I am thinking about PC Music for whatever reason

    and how like, every single article about them is about how they are ultra-divisive deconstructive avant-garde pseudopop geniuses when in reality it's a bunch of earnest dorks who really, genuinely love 2000s pop music + aesthetics and experimental electronic music and like to mash them together with earnestness and a good sense of humor

    also they aren't even divisive almost everyone I meet likes them or is at worst indifferent?
  • tell you what though: nothing prepares you for electronic music discourse, which is always either 100% chill people who like finding good vibes or people who are always 6000% SCREAMING INSANITY AND INSULTS over thing which are blatantly subjective


    this is literally Audiotool's community? like, there's just a bunch of drama over there over nonsense and I have never understood it

    also people are really pushy and try to get you to listen to their stuff and it's a nuisance, at one point it just got to the point where all of my notifications were people commenting on my page to get me to check their New Hot Tracks and I had to indirectly write "DO NOT SPAM MY WALL" in my description to get it to stop

    Some of the music is really freaking great but the social experience can be hit or miss and overall does leave a fair bit to be desired
  • just listen to any of these honestly they're all good

    also does anyone at all remember the original version of "King Kong"? The less well-known song by two hit wonder Jibbs?
  • see like, my issue is that listening to straight guys talk about sex gets me grossed out kinda fast >~>;;;
  • IF YOU HEAR ME 'FORE YOU SEE ME
    IF YOU HEAR ME 'FORE YOU SEE ME
    I GOT KING
    I GOT KING KONG IN THE TRUNK
  • I know that sounds dumb
  • like 

    I listen to Lil Wayne and I'm just like

    "ooh, PUNS!"

    but I realize people might focus on the subject matter first and foremost

    but on the other hand

    puns!!

    really good puns!!!
  • good puns are good
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Jane said:

    feefo even says it bumps in the whip


    Feefo is possibly the mellowest internet reviewer I have yet seen. But yeah, that's pretty delightful.

    now I am thinking about PC Music for whatever reason

    and how like, every single article about them is about how they are ultra-divisive deconstructive avant-garde pseudopop geniuses when in reality it's a bunch of earnest dorks who really, genuinely love 2000s pop music + aesthetics and experimental electronic music and like to mash them together with earnestness and a good sense of humor


    Some of the meta stuff surrounding the music is pretty outré, but people do tend to fixate on that rather than accept the fact that people can earnestly make and enjoy music from both of those worlds.
  • Jane said:

    feefo even says it bumps in the whip


    Feefo is possibly the mellowest internet reviewer I have yet seen. But yeah, that's pretty delightful.

    now I am thinking about PC Music for whatever reason

    and how like, every single article about them is about how they are ultra-divisive deconstructive avant-garde pseudopop geniuses when in reality it's a bunch of earnest dorks who really, genuinely love 2000s pop music + aesthetics and experimental electronic music and like to mash them together with earnestness and a good sense of humor


    Some of the meta stuff surrounding the music is pretty outré, but people do tend to fixate on that rather than accept the fact that people can earnestly make and enjoy music from both of those worlds.
    this is the same sort of thing people try to do when talking about the music of rappers like Lil Wayne, Gucci Mane, Lil B, most recently Young Thug, etc.

    annoying as hell

    good puns are good

    and he makes so many!
  • We can do anything if we do it together.
    I admit that he actually has a pretty nice voice on these songs, but the music doesn't really grab me.

    I hope that's not silly to say.
  • edited 2016-01-03 10:32:21
    “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Wait, not Feefo, shit. The other guy whose name I'm blanking on. Although yes, that line was still a nice touch.

    ^^ See: What Hutson was talking about in that DJ Screw retrospective, but slightly different.
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