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Salix Babylonika · 2016-01-03 08:33:52

YOU WENT TO FILM SCHOOL

Obā-san · 2016-01-03 08:35:05

and your favorite film is

pulp fiction

Obā-san · 2016-01-03 08:39:06

honestly? this is gonna sound really dumb and maybe even a little pretentious, but that honestly makes me doubt that he went to film school

because I mean, pulp fiction is a good movie, but if you go to fucking film school you are going to be exposed to so many very definitely better movies?????

Salix Babylonika · 2016-01-03 08:40:22

it's actually sort of weird that you know who i'm talking about and I didn't really mean for this thread to start a conversation, but since it has, Alpacapatrol just strikes me as someone who puts on airs in general.

the thing that made me unsubscribe from his channel was him talking about how he doesn't like the flows of new rappers and then saying that one of his favorite rappers is Eminem.

Sredni Vashtar · 2016-01-03 08:40:37

"Favourite" does not mean the same as "personal nominee for best of all time."

Salix Babylonika · 2016-01-03 08:42:45

did you guys know that Hershey's makes their chocolate with sour milk

I have no idea if that's true but I think I've heard him say it about nine times.

Obā-san · 2016-01-03 08:43:54

Sredni Vashtar said:
"Favourite" does not mean the same as "personal nominee for best of all time."

this is technically true but

Obā-san · 2016-01-03 08:44:50

honestly whenever he shows up on the nlss in other similar contexts I just like

automatically turn it off at this point

Salix Babylonika · 2016-01-03 08:45:05

Jane said:
it's actually sort of weird that you know who i'm talking about and I didn't really mean for this thread to start a conversation, but since it has, Alpacapatrol just strikes me as someone who puts on airs in general.

the thing that made me unsubscribe from his channel was him talking about how he doesn't like the flows of new rappers and then saying that one of his favorite rappers is Eminem.

this is like saying your favorite director is Michael Bay, but doing so after complaining about how soulless Hollywood is.

Sredni Vashtar · 2016-01-03 09:00:27

To be fair, there are a lot of popular modern rappers with much weaker flows than Eminem. But it is a pretty silly statement, and I get what you mean about the sentiment behind it.

Obā-san · 2016-01-03 09:02:09

people w/ a cooler flow than Eminem:

migos

that white kid who raps on youtube

whatever text-to-speech program lil ugly mane used for that one verse

Salix Babylonika · 2016-01-03 09:03:34

the triplet flow, as overdone as it is, is infinitely more interesting than eminem's icanmakeliterallyanythingsoundlikeit'sbeingtypedinasinglewordwithnospacesorpauseslikeso rap.

incidentally, try taking strong positions sometime on whether Freestyle Fellowship, Slick Rick, or Lord Infamous invented triplet flow, makes for some very "fun" internet arguments

Salix Babylonika · 2016-01-03 09:05:13

also? Rae Sremmurd, that's not a joke.

trill-ass-in-di-vi-du-al

Sredni Vashtar · 2016-01-03 09:05:17

He has his moments. But there are numerous lesser-known MCs who could smoke him at that game, including ones I'm personally not crazy about.

Salix Babylonika · 2016-01-03 09:06:59

also

Today is Tomorrow said:
that white kid who raps on youtube

you would need to be far more specific than this

Salix Babylonika · 2016-01-03 09:07:57

Sredni Vashtar said:
He has his moments. But there are numerous lesser-known MCs who could smoke him at that game, including ones I'm personally not crazy about.

it's funny that he was a huge Sean Price fan because Sean Price's rapping is pretty much the technical opposite of Eminem's.

very sparse, and very blunt.

Salix Babylonika · 2016-01-03 09:11:01

shoot the shit in the booth and shoot the shit out your crew

Salix Babylonika · 2016-01-03 09:13:28

Sredni Vashtar · 2016-01-03 09:14:03

Jane said:
the triplet flow, as overdone as it is, is infinitely more interesting than eminem's icanmakeliterallyanythingsoundlikeit'sbeingtypedinasinglewordwithnospacesorpauseslikeso rap.

incidentally, try taking strong positions sometime on whether Freestyle Fellowship, Slick Rick, or Lord Infamous invented triplet flow, makes for some very "fun" internet arguments

I think both can be done well depending on the context, honestly.

By the by, I'm not sure what Daveed Digg's flow on the intro to Midcity is—it changes up a few times but a good chunk of it is this sort of skipping triplet thing utilising compound rhythms—but whatever it is, it's fucking awesome. I know you're not big on Clipping but the dude can kill it when he's on. (You might like the single "Something They Don't Know", though: It's basically a posse cut/story song hybrid and it has a truly bizarre ODB sample.)

Obā-san · 2016-01-03 09:16:49

I definitely like daveed more for his sense of imagery than his technical ability

Obā-san · 2016-01-03 09:17:11

floor length chinchilla skin graft

Salix Babylonika · 2016-01-03 09:19:04

I've heard Busta Rhymes use this exact cadence before.

Not that that's really a bad thing, but it's not uncommon.

Salix Babylonika · 2016-01-03 09:19:56

NoCanDo is underrated.

Salix Babylonika · 2016-01-03 09:21:03

god this interlude is annoying as shit I hate this wannabe Invisibl Skratch Picklz shit

Sredni Vashtar · 2016-01-03 09:21:53

I like him for both. He's got a knack for striking turns of phrase and nifty little feats of technical mastery that feel really effortless and natural in context.

Salix Babylonika · 2016-01-03 09:22:29

badadapa badadapa bap

Salix Babylonika · 2016-01-03 09:23:00

Anyway idk I don't hear anything particularly interesting here on a technical level.

It's a good song but dude's not Royce da 5'9'' or anything.

Sredni Vashtar · 2016-01-03 09:24:06

Jane said:
god this interlude is annoying as shit I hate this wannabe Invisibl Skratch Picklz shit

Context...?

Oh, I guess you're listening to the song?

Salix Babylonika · 2016-01-03 09:25:42

Sredni Vashtar said:

Jane said:
god this interlude is annoying as shit I hate this wannabe Invisibl Skratch Picklz shit

Context...?

Oh, I guess you're listening to the song?

yes

the cut up interlude would've been a lot better with some kind of beat accompanying it instead of that weird uh

well I guess it was the ODB sample you were talking about. It was mostly just annoying.

Salix Babylonika · 2016-01-03 09:26:21

anyway I was reminded of Busta Rhymes' verse on "Look At Me Now".

Salix Babylonika · 2016-01-03 09:28:36

anyway speaking of Eminem can we talk about how fucking Krizz Kaliko bodies both him and Tech N9ne on "Speedom"?

Salix Babylonika · 2016-01-03 09:31:01

Anyway that is one of the better recent Eminem verses not because he changes up his flow in any way but because the song's environment is suited for it.

Which just really reinforces my theory that contemporary Eminem is just either a slightly better or slightly worse Tech N9ne depending on the day.

Sredni Vashtar · 2016-01-03 09:31:09

Jane said:

Sredni Vashtar said:

Jane said:
god this interlude is annoying as shit I hate this wannabe Invisibl Skratch Picklz shit

Context...?

Oh, I guess you're listening to the song?
yes

the cut up interlude would've been a lot better with some kind of beat accompanying it instead of that weird uh

well I guess it was the ODB sample you were talking about. It was mostly just annoying.

If I'm not mistaken there is a beat going on there, but I can't recall. Thoughts on the rest of it, though? I personally really liked Daveed and Open Mike Eagle's verses on it.

Also: Is it Busta Rhymes' mission in life to salvage songs by mediocre-to-execrable artists or just a hobby?

Obā-san · 2016-01-03 09:31:49

Today is Tomorrow said:
floor length chinchilla skin graft

I was about to say that this bit was the thing that stuck with me the most from that most recent Busdriver album but actually the thing that stuck with me the most was Busdriver's "the feds are using your phone data for revenge porn"

Salix Babylonika · 2016-01-03 09:32:01

Sredni Vashtar said:

Jane said:

Sredni Vashtar said:

Jane said:
god this interlude is annoying as shit I hate this wannabe Invisibl Skratch Picklz shit

Context...?

Oh, I guess you're listening to the song?
yes

the cut up interlude would've been a lot better with some kind of beat accompanying it instead of that weird uh

well I guess it was the ODB sample you were talking about. It was mostly just annoying.

If I'm not mistaken there is a beat going on there, but I can't recall. Thoughts on the rest of it, though? I personally really liked Daveed and Open Mike Eagle's verses on it.

Also: Is it Busta Rhymes' mission in life to salvage songs by mediocre-to-execrable artists or just a hobby?

Chris Brown's not a bad artist (or wasn't at the time anyway), he's a bad person, there's a difference. There's also a good Lil Wayne verse on that tune.

Anyway, Busta Rhymes always delivers on guest verses but can't hold an album of his own to save his life. Bit of a bad tradeoff.

Salix Babylonika · 2016-01-03 09:32:58

as for the rest of the song it was fine.

I like posse cuts usually but my favorite verse was by SB The Moor who I have not prior heard of, NoCanDo's was a close second. Only member of The Hellfyre Club I know of who knows how to let his lyrics breathe a bit.

Obā-san · 2016-01-03 09:35:03

https://sbthemoor.bandcamp.com/album/el-negro

Sredni Vashtar · 2016-01-03 09:40:05

SB The Moor raps with Diggs in True Neutral Crew and has released some really out-there solo stuff.

Actually, I haven't listened to "Something They Don't Know" in a while. I remember everyone being pretty on-point but they sort of blend into one continuous thing despite being distinct, like different perspectives in a story showing different personalities and angles to the same plot.

Technically, though, I do remember that it is far from Diggs' flashiest. The intros to both of their full-lengths are probably the most unfettered, seeing as I'm pretty sure they're just straight up freestyles meant to set the mood over harsh noise, but I feel like the noise component would be a bit too unpleasant for you.

Salix Babylonika · 2016-01-03 09:41:34

the thing about Diggs is that he is a good but not amazing rapper on his own--he's not on the level of someone like Aesop Rock or MF DOOM, or even, again, Busta Rhymes--and he functions best as part of a larger machine, usually Clipping, whose production puts me off.

Thus while I am aware of Diggs' talents I can't really appreciate them.

Salix Babylonika · 2016-01-03 09:43:31

Today is Tomorrow said:
https://sbthemoor.bandcamp.com/album/el-negro

OH this guy

I will have to actually listen to this tomorrow

Obā-san · 2016-01-03 09:45:37

belladonna is a really good track

Obā-san · 2016-01-03 09:48:06

at least by my idiosyncratic standards

Salix Babylonika · 2016-01-03 09:48:13

I admit, I do find this conversation just a tad frustrating.

Not because of anything about Daveed Diggs or Clipping particularly but it feels sometimes like our musical tastes only overlap at the fringes.

Like I'm not sure we'd have much to talk about wrt to Lil Wayne or something.

Sredni Vashtar · 2016-01-03 09:48:26

Yeah, I get what you mean, even if I do feel differently. However, I will say that all parties in Clipping have progressed artistically with time, and you might want to give CLPPNG a spin if you haven't already. It's way less polarised than Midcity was, and everyone's at the top of their game, although "Work Work" is a biiiit deceptive as a single.

Salix Babylonika · 2016-01-03 09:49:24

I think CLPPNG is the one I listened to. I would have to check the album cover to be sure.

Sredni Vashtar · 2016-01-03 09:50:23

Midcity is the first one. It has a mess of cut tape on the cover, I think.

Obā-san · 2016-01-03 09:50:29

I think being friends involves sharing commonalities as opposed to like, sharing everything

heck, even with like sredni and I where we have a bunch of overlap generally speaking our core listening doesn't overlap all that much

Salix Babylonika · 2016-01-03 09:52:21

Today is Tomorrow said:
I think being friends involves sharing commonalities as opposed to like, sharing everything

heck, even with like sredni and I where we have a bunch of overlap generally speaking our core listening doesn't overlap all that much

yeah, I know

I just wish I could get you guys into DOOM or something but that would involve me being pushy, and I don't like doing that cuz I don't like having it done to me.

Obā-san · 2016-01-03 09:53:00

like, I'm fine w/ you talking about the stuff you like and talking about why you like it, even if I don't like it

the sharing of the enthusiasm and coming to a greater mutual understanding is the important component

Salix Babylonika · 2016-01-03 09:53:14

yeah CLPPNG was the one with the wire mesh on the cover. Didn't really care for it as I recall.

Salix Babylonika · 2016-01-03 09:53:26

Today is Tomorrow said:
like, I'm fine w/ you talking about the stuff you like and talking about why you like it, even if I don't like it

the sharing of the enthusiasm and coming to a greater mutual understanding is the important component

I suppose that is true.

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