What's so great about the 2010s?

Anonus · 2015-12-30 20:17:27

This decade sucks.

Presentism. A shit economy. Rampant pessimism. A sense that anything that predates the '80s is trash.

Anonus · 2015-12-30 20:18:30

At least it's not the 2000s, even though that's when half this shit started

Klinotaxis · 2015-12-30 20:21:08

If the 70s were so great, how come we're not still in them? Riddle me that, atheist

Salix Babylonika · 2015-12-30 20:21:10

self quote which vanilla will probably botch:

Anonus said:
probably

Anonus said:

Anonus said:
i'm going to cool off now

Anonus said:

Anonus said:
but my points - those phrased less venomously - still stand

I don't think they do?

History is the collected record of what has occurred at any point in the past. The division of time into days, weeks, years, decades, and "eras" is totally arbitrary and done solely for human convenience.

Furthermore, what is "modernity"? None of us would even be capable of communicating right now if we didn't live in the present day, or else the very recent past.

I just don't understand the complaint, you seem to conflate liking some old cultural things (mainly cartoons) with liking the actual chronological period of time that they are from, which just doesn't make any sense.

I try to 'call you out' on these things only rarely at most because I see a lot of myself in you and understand being frustrated by current cultural trends, but I don't like when you get like this, it makes me concerned for you, founded or unfounded as that concern may be.

You seem to want to inhabit this role of a "curmudgeon", but I don't understand why. There isn't anything honorable about clinging to things goneby, even if there's also not anything wrong with liking those things for what they are.

Salix Babylonika · 2015-12-30 20:21:14

called it.

Odradek · 2015-12-30 20:21:15

Salix Babylonika · 2015-12-30 20:22:55

Anyway I don't think the 2010s suck.

Most of what is bad about modern America is just the result of stuff that's been happening for decades, sometimes centuries.

I also don't think that most people disregard anything made prior to the 80s. There is a degree of 80s nostalgia fetishism right now but only because people who were young in the 80s are now adults and are thus a good target for marketers. That will (and already has started to) fade into a similar 90s nostalgia wave as time goes on, and that will fade into one for the 00's, and so on, and so forth.

Anonus · 2015-12-30 20:23:07

Jane said:

self quote which vanilla will probably botch:

Anonus said:
probably

Anonus said:

Anonus said:
i'm going to cool off now

Anonus said:

Anonus said:
but my points - those phrased less venomously - still stand

I don't think they do?

History is the collected record of what has occurred at any point in the past. The division of time into days, weeks, years, decades, and "eras" is totally arbitrary and done solely for human convenience.

Furthermore, what is "modernity"? None of us would even be capable of communicating right now if we didn't live in the present day, or else the very recent past.

I just don't understand the complaint, you seem to conflate liking some old cultural things (mainly cartoons) with liking the actual chronological period of time that they are from, which just doesn't make any sense.

I try to 'call you out' on these things only rarely at most because I see a lot of myself in you and understand being frustrated by current cultural trends, but I don't like when you get like this, it makes me concerned for you, founded or unfounded as that concern may be.

You seem to want to inhabit this role of a "curmudgeon", but I don't understand why. There isn't anything honorable about clinging to things goneby, even if there's also not anything wrong with liking those things for what they are.

I don't want to inhabit it, it's how I am.

Salix Babylonika · 2015-12-30 20:23:23

Klinotaxis said:
If the 70s were so great, how come we're not still in them? Riddle me that, atheist

Baldanders said:

guys come on this is what he was just complaining about in the other thread

Odradek · 2015-12-30 20:23:36

I have no idea who you are arguing with.

I have never met them.

Salix Babylonika · 2015-12-30 20:24:10

I don't want to inhabit it, it's how I am.

Does being that way bother you?

Open question.

Anonus · 2015-12-30 20:24:29

It can.

Odradek · 2015-12-30 20:24:40

I posted that before I saw the other thread.

Anonus · 2015-12-30 20:24:40

i'm sorry, I shouldn't have derailed Centie's thread with this stuff

Anonus · 2015-12-30 20:26:07

I was angry about something IRL and it bled over >_>

Please don't hate me

Salix Babylonika · 2015-12-30 20:26:44

Anonus said:
It can.

See I ask that because I get that way about music sometimes and it bothers me after the fact.

Anonus said:
I was angry about something IRL and it bled over >_>

Please don't hate me

I do not think anyone here hates you.

Princess Alice · 2015-12-30 20:27:28

The 2010s, like any other decade, have had some good and bad stuff.

Good things: Steven Universe is legit one of the best cartoon series I've ever seen; gay marriage was legalized across the country; we're making progress on trans rights

Bad things: Stupid rehashed movies like the endless Chipmunk sequels, Donald Trump gaining even more power than he already had; rampant violent crime by law enforcement

So yeah.

Princess Alice · 2015-12-30 20:28:56

Anonus said:
I was angry about something IRL and it bled over >_>

Please don't hate me

I certainly don't hate you but I do want to note that this sort of misdirected anger has been a recurring problem for you.

I can remember countless instances where you've been mad over something else and you direct your anger at me even when I had nothing to do with whatever upset you.

Anonus · 2015-12-30 20:29:51

FUCK DONALD TRUMP

Obā-san · 2015-12-30 20:29:55

all this talk of 80s nostalgia is weird to me because i was pretty sure that 90s nostalgia is what is peaking right now

Anonus · 2015-12-30 20:31:03

Today is Tomorrow said:
all this talk of 80s nostalgia is weird to me because i was pretty sure that 90s nostalgia is what is peaking right now

Not quite. At the 20 year point, decades come back, and at the 30 year point, they are enshrined in popular art/media.

Salix Babylonika · 2015-12-30 20:31:19

It is among people our age, but a lot of stuff is still targeted at folks a few years older than us and is thus more 80sy.

Obā-san · 2015-12-30 20:34:44

I mean

looking at fashion and music

Obā-san · 2015-12-30 20:35:02

which are the two things I'm interested in

as you all know

Anonus · 2015-12-30 20:35:23

Meanwhile, one day, once our generation decides that everything baby boomers hold dear is worthless, my old cartoons will be no longer spoken of, with their mere mention punishable by death

Anonus · 2015-12-30 20:36:30

Today is Tomorrow said:
I mean

looking at fashion and music

maybe the cycle works differently there

Anonus · 2015-12-30 20:38:15

but yeah, with TV cartoons, people seem to love the crap, either out of nostalgia or because they are fascinated by crap and its failings

they never look back at the good stuff, and cry at its beauty and/or excellence

Anonus · 2015-12-30 20:38:40

almost as enraging as the near-total cultural death of you-know-what is how no one remembers Rocko for anything but the sex jokes

Anonus · 2015-12-30 20:41:41

i'm getting off-track here >_<

Anonus · 2015-12-30 20:43:30

but who knows, maybe I'm looking in the wrong places, or remembering things wrong

Klinotaxis · 2015-12-30 20:44:34

Jane said:

Klinotaxis said:
If the 70s were so great, how come we're not still in them? Riddle me that, atheist

Baldanders said:
guys come on this is what he was just complaining about in the other thread

i don't know what thread that is, and if anonus keeps making these ridiculous threads i'm going to keep making ridiculous replies

Anonus · 2015-12-30 20:47:59

yeah I'm being myopic

Salix Babylonika · 2015-12-30 20:53:43

Anonus said:
Meanwhile, one day, once our generation decides that everything baby boomers hold dear is worthless, my old cartoons will be no longer spoken of, with their mere mention punishable by death

I feel like that will probably not happen, for a variety of reasons.

Anonus said:
but yeah, with TV cartoons, people seem to love the crap, either out of nostalgia or because they are fascinated by crap and its failings

they never look back at the good stuff, and cry at its beauty and/or excellence

Most people don't cry at media unless it's sad.

Anonus said:
almost as enraging as the near-total cultural death of you-know-what is how no one remembers Rocko for anything but the sex jokes

Well Rocko was a 90s thing, for one thing, which is what I thought you were against.

For another, I think that's just the nature of people. The Simpsons had plenty going for it besides edginess too, but it's all anyone ever talks about.

Anonus said:
but who knows, maybe I'm looking in the wrong places, or remembering things wrong

Very possible, I've done that before.

Imipolex G · 2015-12-30 20:56:50

remember when everything before the 20th century was forgotten? wow, that was a load off our backs

Anonus · 2015-12-30 20:57:58

I'm not against the '90s. Far from it

Anonus · 2015-12-30 21:07:56

The '90s were in many ways the last gasp of my ideal world.

Imipolex G · 2015-12-30 21:13:33

well shit, at least your ideal world existed, I guess. Mine never did

Anonus · 2015-12-30 21:18:46

well it wasn't completely ideal, but still

Anonus · 2015-12-30 21:19:09

fuck George W. Bush

Odradek · 2015-12-30 21:21:56

I can agree with that.

Tachyon · 2015-12-30 21:23:43

Baldanders said:
I can agree with that.

Section42L · 2015-12-30 21:25:17

Tachyon said:

Baldanders said:
I can agree with that.

Imipolex G · 2015-12-30 21:29:09

I wouldn't fuck him

not for a billion dollars

Tachyon · 2015-12-30 21:55:22

Anonus said:
The '90s were in many ways the last gasp of my ideal world.

i've had this thought many times before, btw, although lately i feel it's an overly simplistic and rose-tinted way of looking at things.

Anonus · 2015-12-30 22:04:52

also, seeing as how I was asked to elaborate on how mid-century stuff is "dying":

The lower public profile of '50s and '60s cartoons, fewer young people citing them as an influence on their own work (or maybe this generation just doesn't wear its influences on their sleeves)...but then again, Wendy's restaurants look overtly faux-modernist now

Anonus · 2015-12-30 22:05:27

I still want my Googie shit to make a resurgence though. As much as I like some things about the '60s they were a very quiet decade visually, at least what wasn't left over from the '50s

Obā-san · 2015-12-30 22:07:51

but that is just cartoons

Anonus · 2015-12-30 22:09:32

Today is Tomorrow said:
but that is just cartoons

Cartoons are very important to me

Obā-san · 2015-12-30 22:12:32

I know that but you gotta realize that they are just a very small part of the overall picture

what about 50s architecture, 50s furniture, 50s graphic design, 50s fashions, 50s cultural values, 50s music?

Tachyon · 2015-12-30 22:15:46

Seconding naney on this.

Even within those categories, there's a lot of diversity. The '50s were not the monolith they appear when we look back on them, a lot happened.

Obā-san · 2015-12-30 22:17:02

yeah, that too

What's so great about the 2010s?

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