Going to a four-year school

Is it worth it? I keep feeling like university life to experience life on a level higher than I can even imagine
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  • college sucks lol just be a dropout like me and never make anything of yourself and survive off of pity.
  • Munch munch, chomp chomp...
    If you can pay for it, absolutely, I say. It's the same but more. Resources from within the university and outside (should you pick a place that you, you know, want to go), you can meet more people and interact more easily than at a community college, just a whole lot more educational opportunities in general (easier to find corporations hounding folks at bigger universities than a campus at a CC for example), more classes to take... but of course the cost.

    Does it sound worth it to you?
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    I'm in my third semester at a four-year university and I'm liking it so far! I'm finally starting to take classes that pertain directly to my desired career, too, instead of just gen ed stuff.

    Definitely look for grants and scholarships so you don't have to take a zillion loans, but I'd say yes, it's worth it.
  • In my second year of a three year course (third year of a four year course if you include my foundation year), and it definitely worth it.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    What is it with you and "experiencing life on a higher level"? What and how you experience reality is all about mindset, but you seem to believe that everyone else is somehow thinking and feeling and simply being better than you all the time just because they have stuff or have done things. The fact is, if you feel like your experience is shallow and tedious, maybe it's not so much about what you're doing in itself as your own claustrophobic view on reality coupled with the fact that what you're doing is just plain boring, at least to you at this moment.

    Would I recommend going to a four-year college, particularly if it means moving out? Yes. It would be a change of pace and would afford you the opportunity to do all sorts of cool things and meet new people. But it's not going to enrich your life too much if you still look at social interaction as intrinsically threatening and doing new things as risky and forbidding.
  • kill living beings
    Anonus said:

    life on a level higher than I can even imagine

    yeah it's a great place to buy pot
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    Pot smells horrible

    Also, yes, I am way too nervous and fearful
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Pot smells anywhere from interesting but pungent to absolutely disgusting depending on the strain, how it's being used and what it's been mixed with (i.e. varieties of tobacco). That said, if you're in the right frame of mind with the right people it can be fun.
  • For once, or maybe twice, I was in my prime.
    To be blunt: If past performance is any indication of future performance, going to a university won't make you happy the way you think. You'll just beat yourself up over "not getting enough out of the college experience" because you went to the wrong one or didn't join a fraternity or something. "My college never gets any shout-outs on TV, what am I doing wrong?" "I can't help but feel that my classmates who party every other night and drink until they puke and fail half their tests are just experiencing life on a higher level than I am."

    As Sredni said, a university can be a very enriching experience, and it can improve your long-term job prospects. But it's not going to be the key to the magical life that you think everyone besides you is living.
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    You know, I'll second that.

    Like, you hardly socialize at your community college as it is, so if you go to a new school and continue to not socialize, not much is going to change one way or the other.
  • Also there are social groups that don't involve getting wasted on weekends and waking up in strange places.

    Some social groups just regularly get together to play board games.  Others dine together.  Others have homework sessions together.  Others just get together for coffee every so often.  Others go to the gym to work out together.  And so on.
  • I've briefly delved into the land of getting wasted on weekends and waking up in strange places, in different contexts

    The first isn't worth it. The second definitely isn't worth it. 
  • Though I suppose some people get to wake up in the park surrounded by homeless people, and that's probably a more romantic shake than getting woken up by a campus officer and having to prove that you're a student and not a vagabond crashing on college property

    ...Man, I do not miss compulsively wandering the streets past midnight.
  • I will never forget, an acquaintance of mine, in senior year of high school, posting that immortal Facebook status after a night of revelrie, I think it was over Thanksgiving break?

    all caps: "WHY AM I IN JERSEY?"
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Oh dear deer dere.

    Was it a nice part of New Jersey, a gross part, or pine barrens?
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    is New Jersey fun
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    because you're bringing your higher Northeast experience into this thread
  • Munch munch, chomp chomp...
    Anonus said:

    because you're bringing your higher Northeast experience into this thread

    This is, like, precisely what Vash and Centie and M4 are talking about.

    A fair fair fair part of making your experiences better comes down to you.
  • Oh dear deer dere.

    Was it a nice part of New Jersey, a gross part, or pine barrens?

    I think he said it was some border town. So it wasn't actually that far away (he was near Easton), but still quite a drive from where we're at.
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    Crystal said:

    Anonus said:

    because you're bringing your higher Northeast experience into this thread

    This is, like, precisely what Vash and Centie and M4 are talking about.

    A fair fair fair part of making your experiences better comes down to you.
    Well, yes, but again, it just seems like the Northeast is one of the most culturally-important parts of America, also my question wasn't answered.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    It's not a "higher experience!" It's Jersey! It's over there and it has freeways and truck stops and the literal scariest natural area on the Eastern Seaboard!

    To be fair, some parts of NJ are really pretty and one of my favourite sushi restaurants is there but I'm not magically more enriched on an existential level by being within driving distance of the former New Sweden.
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    Also, Sredni gets to act smug about Philly, whereas any smugness on my part is summarily thwacked.
  • Anonus said:

    Crystal said:

    Anonus said:

    because you're bringing your higher Northeast experience into this thread

    This is, like, precisely what Vash and Centie and M4 are talking about.

    A fair fair fair part of making your experiences better comes down to you.
    Well, yes, but again, it just seems like the Northeast is one of the most culturally-important parts of America, also my question wasn't answered.
    You live in Denver! Denver is great!

    I would kill to live in Denver instead of jackfuck nowhere, Pennsylvania!
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Anonus said:

    Crystal said:

    Anonus said:

    because you're bringing your higher Northeast experience into this thread

    This is, like, precisely what Vash and Centie and M4 are talking about.

    A fair fair fair part of making your experiences better comes down to you.
    Well, yes, but again, it just seems like the Northeast is one of the most culturally-important parts of America, also my question wasn't answered.

    It's a state. It's not a simple question. And "cultural significance" only matters if you actually go places and do things. You could have a very enriching experience in Denver if you made an effort to look for stuff to do and people to hang out with and places to go, but instead you just envy other people and mope.

    Also I sort of answered your question anyway.
  • It's not a "higher experience!" It's Jersey! It's over there and it has freeways and truck stops and the literal scariest natural area on the Eastern Seaboard!

    To be fair, some parts of NJ are really pretty and one of my favourite sushi restaurants is there but I'm not magically more enriched on an existential level by being within driving distance of the former New Sweden.

    As much as I hate promoting Schmoyoho, I can't help but bring this up


  • edited 2015-12-02 04:49:48

    Anonus said:

    Also, Sredni gets to act smug about Philly, whereas any smugness on my part is summarily thwacked.

    YOUVE NEVER EVER HAVE A SINGLE GOOD THING TO SAY ABOUT DENVER

    YOU MAKE IT SOUND LIKE A RURAL VILLAGE WHERE THERE IS A STRANGE CLOWN FESTIVAL WITH SECRET CANNIBAL WORMS
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Anonus said:

    Also, Sredni gets to act smug about Philly, whereas any smugness on my part is summarily thwacked.


    I joke about being smug. The few opportunities I have to be genuinely snotty, I avoid, because there's a difference between the funny kind of faux-bravado and the demeaning, petty asshole kind.
  • Munch munch, chomp chomp...
    Most of Vash's smugness in tongue-in-cheek, mind. And your question went unanswered but you're also plainly ignoring points we're trying to elaborate on related to your very OP.

    It's a state, like any other state, regardless of what is deemed Most Culturally Important, and your continued fixation on being the very best like no one ever was is just going to keep hurting you. And, like, I see you thwack down your own smugness more than anyone else, because you just hate where you live or something. Which is understandable, but it's not like continuing to belittle your place of residence is going to help.

    As Central said, you don't socialize much nowadays anyway, so I am, again, inclined to at least somewhat filter this back to you. Like, you live in the capital or at least not far off from it considering you're in the city proper as far as I can tell. Surely you're not lacking in notability, or stuff to do in general.
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat

    Anonus said:

    Also, Sredni gets to act smug about Philly, whereas any smugness on my part is summarily thwacked.

    YOUVE NEVER EVER HAVE A SINGLE GOOD THING TO SAY ABOUT DENVER

    YOU MAKE IT SOUND LIKE A RURAL VILLAGE WHERE THERE IS A STRANGE CLOWN FESTIVAL WITH SECRET CANNIBAL WORMS
    I like the place! I like the mountain views and dry air and the laid-back-ness.

    Also, you make strange clown festivals sound like a bad thing.

    Anonus said:

    Also, Sredni gets to act smug about Philly, whereas any smugness on my part is summarily thwacked.


    I joke about being smug. The few opportunities I have to be genuinely snotty, I avoid, because there's a difference between the funny kind of faux-bravado and the demeaning, petty asshole kind.
    yeah I do lapse into the latter sometimes >_>
  • Anonus said:

    Anonus said:

    Also, Sredni gets to act smug about Philly, whereas any smugness on my part is summarily thwacked.

    YOUVE NEVER EVER HAVE A SINGLE GOOD THING TO SAY ABOUT DENVER

    YOU MAKE IT SOUND LIKE A RURAL VILLAGE WHERE THERE IS A STRANGE CLOWN FESTIVAL WITH SECRET CANNIBAL WORMS
    I like the place! I like the mountain views and dry air and the laid-back-ness.
    well, you certainly could have fooled this cat
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    I live in a housing development within the city limits, but not downtown.
  • My rents are from NJ, I lived there for a few years and went up pretty frequently during my formative years as a result of having family up there (some of whom still do, albeit not as many now because most of us migrated en masse to North Carolina over the course of the 2000s, my immediate folks being the first)

    It's still a bit sketchy depending on where you go, but it's not nearly as much of a hellhole as people say it is. Newark will give you nightmares if you're not used to it, but Roselle, Woodbridge and Elizabeth aren't half bad.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Denver isn't a big city, but it's not a sleepy little town. It has restaurants and plays and concerts and nightlife and all sorts of social gatherings, and yet, as Naney said, sometimes you make it sound like you live in Mirocaw and are waiting for them to crown your sister the Winter Queen at the big Feast of Fools.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Anonus said:

    I live in a housing development within the city limits, but not downtown.


    And Jane lives an hour's bus ride from the nearest city, which is fucking Allentown. Denver has six times the population of Allentown.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”

    Anonus said:

    Anonus said:

    Also, Sredni gets to act smug about Philly, whereas any smugness on my part is summarily thwacked.

    YOUVE NEVER EVER HAVE A SINGLE GOOD THING TO SAY ABOUT DENVER

    YOU MAKE IT SOUND LIKE A RURAL VILLAGE WHERE THERE IS A STRANGE CLOWN FESTIVAL WITH SECRET CANNIBAL WORMS
    I like the place! I like the mountain views and dry air and the laid-back-ness.
    well, you certainly could have fooled this cat

    This.

    Fo' serious.
  • Munch munch, chomp chomp...
    Something just occurred to me about AU's thinking, and how I might actually agree with the personal sentiment (if not the overall reasoning). Except saying more on that front is not something I'm keen on.

    Sigh Anonus, I'm sympathetic, to say the least. But the truth is you've got a lot you could do in Denver: Sports are big (enough) there if you're up for games, you have all sorts of parks if memory serves, there are all sorts of centers you can check out (like the CCC), it's got an active music scene (which can probably be related to animation somehow), all sorts of sights you can take inspiration from in person, and surely much more.

    I pretty much only see you complain about how you don't live in the bestest place for all of your specific interests (right now it's the NE area, but sometimes it's SF, sometimes it's places like Austin and Houston, sometimes...), and belittle the place like it's utter blandness. (The more I think on it the more your moving elsewhere for university education would be a good thing, honestly.)
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    Also, truly, a rural village with a strange clown festival? The city folk don't know what they're missing!
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    It is not utter blandness, but I do wish to live somewhere at times where I could believe I was experiencing the height of human experience, and surrounded by people who also feel that way. But that place could well be right here!
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    Also Austin seems to be one of those cities with a hipster-ish image like we have now
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    Also, I have almost never heard anyone call Denver a "cow town". It seems to be borne of a bunch of "but-but-but what if people from New York/LA/San Francisco don't think Denver's a REAL city?"

    (Then again, I don't like Michigan or Ohio too much)
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    What's wrong with the Old West history? Aside from the more troubling greater aspects of such...
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Anonus said:

    It is not utter blandness, but I do wish to live somewhere at times where I could believe I was experiencing the height of human experience, and surrounded by people who also feel that way. But that place could well be right here!


    It could be anywhere. But part of the problem is that not merely do you seem endlessly preoccupied with this goal while not seeking to actually want to put yourself out there, but you don't seem to have much of a definition for "higher experience." It's just anybody doing things that you aren't doing—things that you quite often could be doing if you actually showed some initiative in the not-turning-into-a-troglodyte department.

    Socialising is hard. I get that. But you seem intent on denying yourself the opportunity to have fun because you are afraid of making a fool of yourself or screwing up the experience. But screwing up and being foolish can be its own reward. It's no reason to let yourself languish, let alone bitch about how other people have more fun and deeper experiences than you.
  • Anonus said:

    I live in a housing development within the city limits, but not downtown.


    And Jane lives an hour's bus ride from the nearest city, which is fucking Allentown. Denver has six times the population of Allentown.
    ahahahahahaha

    buses.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Anonus said:

    Also, truly, a rural village with a strange clown festival? The city folk don't know what they're missing!


    This is specifically a reference to Thomas Ligotti's novella "The Last Feast of Harlequin". It makes sense in context.
  • Thomas Ligotti is a sucker.

    Thomas Ligotti ever make Billboard's Top 100?

    Didn't think so.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Jane said:

    Anonus said:

    I live in a housing development within the city limits, but not downtown.


    And Jane lives an hour's bus ride from the nearest city, which is fucking Allentown. Denver has six times the population of Allentown.
    ahahahahahaha

    buses.

    My point exactly.

    What the fuck is up with the buses where you are, anyway? People bitch about SEPTA but you can still get from Point A to Point B.
  • Jane said:

    Anonus said:

    I live in a housing development within the city limits, but not downtown.


    And Jane lives an hour's bus ride from the nearest city, which is fucking Allentown. Denver has six times the population of Allentown.
    ahahahahahaha

    buses.

    My point exactly.

    What the fuck is up with the buses where you are, anyway? People bitch about SEPTA but you can still get from Point A to Point B.
    There is exactly one bus route that runs through Walnutport. It's the Pocono Express, and it runs twice a day from the parking lot of the Kmart, at 6am and 6pm. Not on weekends, holidays, or in heavy weather of course.

    That is the only bus route in the area. You want better coverage you gotta go to Slatington, which would not be so far away if I had a car, but that defeats the entire purpose of a bus route now donnit?
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Indeed.

    God, I take living so close to Philly for granted sometimes.
  • also it only runs to Jim Thorpe, which is a decent-size town but you can't really get many other places from there by bus.

    Now I did the math on this once, if I wanted to spend two hours in Tamaqua--the largest city I can get to in a reasonable amount of time from here by bus--I'd have to be gone that entire 6 to 6 period, and if I were to miss my bus back, well, hard luck.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    If I weren't living with my family I'd put you up on my couch a few days so you could visit the city and not have to go through hell to get back.
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