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  • Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    You'll never be young again.
  • So whilst playing on The Sims 3, I had a couple who had a baby boy. The baby, called Norman, glitched out a little, then disappeared altogether. Hmm...
  • Tools said:

    So whilst playing on The Sims 3, I had a couple who had a baby boy. The baby, called Norman, glitched out a little, then disappeared altogether. Hmm...

    vanished from sheer existential despair at being named "Norman" in TYOOL 2015
  • sunn wolf said:

    sunn wolf said:

    Panurge said:

    I have this weird thing where doing certain things that I know I will enjoy gets classified in my brain as "work", so I put them off, even though they're not substantially different from what I consider "not work"

    i feel this
    i have been feeling that playing games and watching tv shows in organized manners and in response to or in light of social expectations really is not substantially different from "work"
    if you're a game/tv critic then it is work

    i read books, and for me that's work. but even if i'm interested in a book i find myself procrastinating a bit over reading it just because it's work, or because i think of it as work. something about having an obligation to do something makes it suddenly less attractive
    as it turns out, the true pleasure of my childhood was not actually getting to play these games per se, but being able to explore them to my heart's content with nary a care, and even when i had to look over my shoulder, it was out of worrying about a scolding, rather than worrying about existential questions
    i get this too, when i play videogames i tend to just sack off the storyline and whatever you're 'supposed' to do and just go explore instead

    this is why i overwhelmingly played sandbox games like elder scrolls, etc. rather than more linear ones. i clocked absolutely hundreds and hundreds of hours into oblivion before i even touched the main quest
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    Butch & Femme in

    "WHAT GOES AROUND"

    storyboard by Alice H.
    produced by Jill Hersheimer
  • the entire park is out of water

    siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh
  • image Wee yea erra chs hymmnos mea.
    On one hand, the upcoming election is a lesser of two evils situation. On the other hand, the greater of the two evils is a coalition involving Literal Fascists, so it's not really a difficult choice.
  • My dreams exceed my real life

    On one hand, the upcoming election is a lesser of two evils situation. On the other hand, the greater of the two evils is a coalition involving Literal Fascists, so it's not really a difficult choice.

    I wonder how big the obligatory party of Literal Facists would be if the USA didn't eat up all the lefties and righties into two big mega-parties.
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    Got my last final in ten minutes

    Hope it works
  • image Wee yea erra chs hymmnos mea.
    Honestly, if a Tory/Lib/UKIP/DUP/Fifth party that they need for a majority coalition comes into power, I'm just going to spend the next 1826 days drinking.
  • the buttons on both of my trackpads have stopped working

    i am having to use the stylus
  • image Wee yea erra chs hymmnos mea.
    ...Course, I guess the "lesser of two evils" thing doesn't actually matter in the first place, since I live in a Labour/Tory marginal, which kinda forces my hand.
  • Sup bitches, witches, Haters, and trolls.
    Apparently Rupert Murdoch said that Miliband in 10 Downing Street could mean the end of his company, which I think might mean all Brits have a duty to vote Labour?
  • wow i havent used a mouse in forever

    im not used to it
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022

    ...Course, I guess the "lesser of two evils" thing doesn't actually matter in the first place, since I live in a Labour/Tory marginal, which kinda forces my hand.

    Heh, I'm in the same situation. Ohio is a notorious swing state--no Republican has ever gotten the White House without it--so I'm forced to vote Democrat even when it's someone I don't really like.
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    Ultimately, the electoral college screws individuals
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    I don't understand voting campaigns that say stuff like "it doesn't matter who you vote for, just vote."

    Like, if you're against my views, I'd prefer you just sat at home.

    Not gonna support legislature to prevent you from voting because bad idea, but a certain number of extra people becoming indeterminately Politically Engaged will not help the country
  • I'm only voting in the UK election to keep UKIP out of power.
  • edited 2015-05-01 19:07:27
    ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)
    Remember, Bangerter, back in the 1980's, became the first republican governor of Utah in 20 years.

    Utah was once strongly not-republican.

    If you want the Utah vote, you're gonna have to change the democrat's stance on abortion.

    It's that issue, it overrides all other issues, and is a deal-breaker.

    I'd like to vote democrat, but the republicans are holding my culture and religion hostage.

    I'd feel like a bad Utahn if I voted for any Clinton.

    So, I'll vote third party, which is like rooting for a basketball team that isn't the Jazz, but isn't the bulls or the Lakers.  Except, basketball is serious flipping business that you don't joke about and that shouldn't be compared to mere politics.  Nobody gives a crud who gets to lounge around in the white house, but 1997 was the year of tragedy.
  • sunn wolf said:

    sunn wolf said:

    sunn wolf said:

    Panurge said:

    I have this weird thing where doing certain things that I know I will enjoy gets classified in my brain as "work", so I put them off, even though they're not substantially different from what I consider "not work"

    i feel this
    i have been feeling that playing games and watching tv shows in organized manners and in response to or in light of social expectations really is not substantially different from "work"
    if you're a game/tv critic then it is work

    i read books, and for me that's work. but even if i'm interested in a book i find myself procrastinating a bit over reading it just because it's work, or because i think of it as work. something about having an obligation to do something makes it suddenly less attractive
    as it turns out, the true pleasure of my childhood was not actually getting to play these games per se, but being able to explore them to my heart's content with nary a care, and even when i had to look over my shoulder, it was out of worrying about a scolding, rather than worrying about existential questions
    i get this too, when i play videogames i tend to just sack off the storyline and whatever you're 'supposed' to do and just go explore instead

    this is why i overwhelmingly played sandbox games like elder scrolls, etc. rather than more linear ones. i clocked absolutely hundreds and hundreds of hours into oblivion before i even touched the main quest
    instead i came to enjoy strong narratives providing reflection, meaning, and inspiration to the things i did in my more mundane existence

    and i still crave that, i feel, but i'm finding it harder and harder to find that
  • especially when my fellow fans (if they can be called such) seem to seek and emphasize these experiences for how they are different from reality, rather than how they are similar to -- and can reveal something about -- it
  • Panurge said:

    Ultimately, the electoral college screws individuals

    support national popular vote
  • ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)

    Panurge said:

    Ultimately, the electoral college screws individuals

    support national popular vote
    YEs, please, yes, please, yes, please.

    I want the clintons to win, but I can't, in good faith, vote for them.
  • edited 2015-05-01 19:18:07
    We can do anything if we do it together.
    Aliroz said:

    Panurge said:

    Ultimately, the electoral college screws individuals

    support national popular vote
    YEs, please, yes, please, yes, please.

    I want the clintons to win, but I can't, in good faith, vote for them.
    I feel fortunate that I likely won't have official U.S. citizenship by 2016.

    I’d still vote for Hillary, since she’s almost certainly better than anyone the Republicans will put on the ballot. I’d have a very hard time quelling my conscience enough to do so, though.

    However, if Scott Walker were to be the Republican candidate, I’ll be glad to vote for Hillary against him, because he’s one of the few politicians I legitimately hate.
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    I don't really like Hillary Clinton but if it comes down to voting for her or not voting at all, I'll have to vote for her.
  • On one hand, the upcoming election is a lesser of two evils situation. On the other hand, the greater of the two evils is a coalition involving Literal Fascists, so it's not really a difficult choice.

    vote for who you want. disregard coalition/majority possibilities. democracy is about voting for the party you actually believe is best. hence:

    ...Course, I guess the "lesser of two evils" thing doesn't actually matter in the first place, since I live in a Labour/Tory marginal, which kinda forces my hand.

    it doesn't force your hand at all. so long as you continue voting for the party you don't like, they are going to continue to do things you don't like. vote for a party you do like. even if they don't get into power, the politicians will pay attention to how many people are voting for them and the political ground moves accordingly.

    ps. UKIP aren't literal fascists. that's paying them a compliment. they're nowhere near revolutionary enough to be fascists - they're just an establishment party like any other.
  • I don't really like Hillary Clinton but if it comes down to voting for her or not voting at all, I'll have to vote for her.

    there are candidates other than Hillary and whoever the republicans end up with (it's going to be Jeb Bush, isn't it. oh god. Bush v Clinton again. why don't they just make america into a hereditary monarchy and be done w/ it)
  • i'm backing Vermin Supreme 2016.
  • the breakdown of the 2 party system in the UK is extremely ownage and i hope it happens in america as well (whatever the american corollary for ukip is will be legitimately terrifying)
  • Aliroz said:

    So, I'll vote third party

    i support this course of action. you go, al
  • I don't really like Hillary Clinton but if it comes down to voting for her or not voting at all, I'll have to vote for her.

    there's always the primary election! bernie sanders just announced, he's a pretty solid dude.

    (i mean, he has no chance, but hillary has already started being influenced by him so at least there's that)
  • I generally vote my conscience, but I'm a registered Democrat so my choice is usually pretty easy.

    I wish the party were more liberal than it is, but I'm not going to vote for Ron Paul, and a Libertarian is usually the only third choice.

    please listen to "Shere Khan"


  • I've just seen a fox.

    It was cute.
  • image Wee yea erra chs hymmnos mea.

    sunn wolf said:

    On one hand, the upcoming election is a lesser of two evils situation. On the other hand, the greater of the two evils is a coalition involving Literal Fascists, so it's not really a difficult choice.

    vote for who you want. disregard coalition/majority possibilities. democracy is about voting for the party you actually believe is best. hence:

    ...Course, I guess the "lesser of two evils" thing doesn't actually matter in the first place, since I live in a Labour/Tory marginal, which kinda forces my hand.

    it doesn't force your hand at all. so long as you continue voting for the party you don't like, they are going to continue to do things you don't like. vote for a party you do like. even if they don't get into power, the politicians will pay attention to how many people are voting for them and the political ground moves accordingly.

    ps. UKIP aren't literal fascists. that's paying them a compliment. they're nowhere near revolutionary enough to be fascists - they're just an establishment party like any other.
    My choices are Labour, the Tories, UKIP, the Fib Dems, the Greens and the... Free Public Transport Party. I absolutely refuse to cede ground to the Tories here.

    hey, maybe i could help let them in and see what effect the resulting nhs destruction has on my health
  • THIS MACHINE KILLS FASCISTS
    While we do have the Tea Party in the US, it's not so much a formal political party as a movement among reactionaries and "libertarians" (that are frequently actually paleoconservatives that just don't want to pay their taxes). Most of the actual parties with policies even more strident than the Republicans, like the Constitution Party (which is Christian theocratic and wants to enforce Mosaic law), just don't get enough votes to matter.



  • Free Public Transport Party

    If these guys ran in PA they'd fucking sweep.
  • the FPTP? nah proportional representation all the way
  • edited 2015-05-01 20:43:14
    THIS MACHINE KILLS FASCISTS

    hey, maybe i could help let them in and see what effect the resulting nhs destruction has on my health

    Because emulating the US (where you can only get decent healthcare if you're privileged or go into massive debt) is such a great idea. :P
  • lee4hmz said:

    While we do have the Tea Party in the US, it's not so much a formal political party as a movement among reactionaries and "libertarians" (that are frequently actually paleoconservatives that just don't want to pay their taxes). Most of the actual parties with policies even more strident than the Republicans, like the Constitution Party (which is Christian theocratic and wants to enforce Mosaic law), just don't get enough votes to matter.

    No to be fair to the Constitutionalists their whole thing about being 100% devoted to sticking to the constitution exactly is actually pretty much what they do. It's just that the Constitution is a terrible document that we should've replaced a long time ago.

    There's also an actual Libertarian Party but that's like a weird mix of extreme economic conservatism and a very thin veneer of lip service to personal freedom.

    There's also the Greens, who have a point, and a couple local parties where I live.
  • THIS MACHINE KILLS FASCISTS
    Well, they also subscribe to the myth that the US is a Christian (read: "late 20th-century Evangelical") nation, when most of the founders were Deists and deliberately avoided declaring a state religion.
  • image Wee yea erra chs hymmnos mea.
    The Greens in the UK mostly exist to... um... well, they exist, at any rate. And still oppose nuclear power, because nuclear power bad.
  • i want to eat a whole bag of chocolate
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    re: Aliroz

    as un-fun as it must be to get beat by Jordan two years in a row, at least your area's NBA team has actually made it to the Finals



  • sunn wolf said:

    On one hand, the upcoming election is a lesser of two evils situation. On the other hand, the greater of the two evils is a coalition involving Literal Fascists, so it's not really a difficult choice.

    vote for who you want. disregard coalition/majority possibilities. democracy is about voting for the party you actually believe is best. hence:

    ...Course, I guess the "lesser of two evils" thing doesn't actually matter in the first place, since I live in a Labour/Tory marginal, which kinda forces my hand.

    it doesn't force your hand at all. so long as you continue voting for the party you don't like, they are going to continue to do things you don't like. vote for a party you do like. even if they don't get into power, the politicians will pay attention to how many people are voting for them and the political ground moves accordingly.

    ps. UKIP aren't literal fascists. that's paying them a compliment. they're nowhere near revolutionary enough to be fascists - they're just an establishment party like any other.
    My choices are Labour, the Tories, UKIP, the Fib Dems, the Greens and the... Free Public Transport Party. I absolutely refuse to cede ground to the Tories here.

    hey, maybe i could help let them in and see what effect the resulting nhs destruction has on my health
    for srs - well if you actually dislike every party running then it's reasonable to keep out the least worst *shrug* i have no real idea what your political affiliations are. though at the same time remember your vote will not "let anyone in", but if youre still concerned about tory central govt then you could always split your vote locally/nationally

    free public transport sounds p chill though

    "the northern party" are standing for my seat. as far as i can tell they decided 'hmm the SNP are doing p well in scotland, let's do that but for the north instead.' they have some decent policies and then ruin everything by proposing one big ppolice force for the entire north (lol what are you on) and FREE ENERGY 4 EVERYONE (okay have fun funding that when citizens income would do broadly the same thing and be more cost effective and realistic)
  • Shawn Wasabi makes me angry for some reason but I like his music.
  • I think it's that his entire style is "PrettyLights, but moreso" and PrettyLights was kind of already "GirlTalk, but moreso".
  • The Greens in the UK mostly exist to... um... well, they exist, at any rate. And still oppose nuclear power, because nuclear power bad.

    if it's their influence you have an issue with then they have an MP and a council and are the opposition in several councils and have an awful lot of councillors. and ~could~ pick up 2 more seats in this election

    also imo the swing towards snp and greens to a lesser extent has drive ed miliband to propose a few decent policies (which he will probably never implement)
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    IMO there are plenty of parts of the constitution worth keeping. The fourth, fifth, and sixth amendments come to mind.
  • the bacon sandwich party
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