I always got the impression that she was always trying to start arguments, but she never actually succeeded in doing so.
...That pretty much sums it up I guess. She seemed to pretty much hate everything too.
I don't know about that, but she always seemed to be trying to bait ISO Standard Stereotyped Troper (contextless comments like "trolling is trolling. Rudeness is rudeness. Don't confuse the two." come to mind), and it generally didn't work.
That's just how I see it though, I'm not a mind reader and honestly mostly tuned her out anyway.
i get so angry sometimes i just punch plankton --Klinotaxis
What browser are you using? Some browsers (I know Chome does this) "helpfully" try to convert the URL into a link instead, so if that happens, click the "Show Source" button (the last one on the second row toolbar) before you paste the URL.
You can also paste the URL, highlight it, and hit the broken chain icon (farthest on the right).
Hmmmmmm, I *could* make tomato soup, with water, but I only like it when it is made with milk. Maybe I should use half-and-half? Do we have that? I will check. :]
I always got the impression that she was always trying to start arguments, but she never actually succeeded in doing so.
I remember I did react kind of irritably to her shortly after I started coming here, because she kept going on about how awful Yack Fest was having made extensive use of the angst thread there, and I thought this seemed ungrateful and hypocritical. She didn't argue, she just got upset and started talking about how stupid she was, and I kind of backed down.
I dunno.
Oh right, we're stopping with that. Sorry, I should refresh before posting.
Unless she is a masterful troll whose entire existence here is as a character designed to manipulate people (which, I suppose, is a vague possibility), I think she would become upset at these opinions.
I feel I should point out that this is precisely what she claimed she was doing on TVT. I didn't buy that, but yeah.
But you're right, and we shouldn't talk about her behind her back. Especially seeing as she might just be doing other things anyway. She really hasn't been gone for long.
You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
TvT's ban policy upset me quite often. The motherheap is currently dying because of it. Still, I don't hate them. It's a lot harder than that to get me to hate something. Anyway! Sleep!
I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
I think I was kind of a "garbage in, garbage out" person. I used to hang out in IJBM a lot, and that place was really stupid and appealed to a side of me that always wanted to be wacky and zany. Then that outlet vanished and the early days of IJBM2 felt really shitposty and unappealing to me, and I guess hanging around the TVT old guard (and the ones who fit them like a glove, e.g. Juan) made me smarten up.
I'd like profile pages here as well but I don't know how they'd be implemented either.
You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
Screw it, I'm not going to sleep until I get this out. On the Internet, it's very easy to hate other people because we dehumanize them. We convince ourselves that there is no man behind the ignorant opinion or stupid comment. We convince ourselves that the person who said the stupid thing isn't a person, but the stupid thing that was said. It's why resentment towards tropers has always bothered me. With very little exception, almost everyone there was a kind, decent person, but everyone there also had, well flaws. And what I've noticed is that people are perfectly fine with personal flaws so long as no one else has them. We don't like people to have flaws because we prefer our friends to be perfect and our enemies to be pure evil. The realization that a friend is just as human as us or that an enemy has redeeming qualities is upsetting. We either ignore it in the case of our enemies or reject our friends. Which is disappointing, because I have this problem too, and I hate myself for it.
The relaxed "hugbox" that wasn't shockingly ignorant and had legitimately witty things to say about fiction.
It was real, I saw it with my own 2 eyes.
This is reassuring I suppose.
TBH I was fairly slow to notice that the TVT IJBM was stupid. I guess this made me a typical IJBMer.
I miss the staff on TVT, but at this point I can understand why other people didn't like how we were running it, and I don't feel any strong desire to return.
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Vshao was...weird.
I always got the impression that she was always trying to start arguments, but she never actually succeeded in doing so.
...That pretty much sums it up I guess. She seemed to pretty much hate everything too.
I don't know about that, but she always seemed to be trying to bait ISO Standard Stereotyped Troper (contextless comments like "trolling is trolling. Rudeness is rudeness. Don't confuse the two." come to mind), and it generally didn't work.
That's just how I see it though, I'm not a mind reader and honestly mostly tuned her out anyway.
It would only be troperish if our gossip was peppered with bluelinks.
Anyway, I only said anything because other people were.
i get so angry sometimes i just punch plankton --Klinotaxis
(*Shrug*)
I mean, I'm not saying you have to be SUPER CHEERFUL ALL THE TIME, God knows I'm not, but you gotta have bright spots.
Ohgog I felt like a lardass slob just eating one slice.
I dunno.
Oh right, we're stopping with that. Sorry, I should refresh before posting.
Oh, and I miss Carcio-can'trememberhowtospellhisnametheitalliandude, he was cool to talk to.
But you're right, and we shouldn't talk about her behind her back. Especially seeing as she might just be doing other things anyway. She really hasn't been gone for long.
I kind of miss TVT, but I think the TVT I'm missing is probably one that never existed outside my head.
Ultimately, for better or for worse, what happened there was inevitable. Was it good? Bad?
(*Shrug*)
I enjoyed myself when it happened, I even learned a thing or two, in the end, everything else isn't all that important.
I like you, Tre. The relaxed "hugbox" that wasn't shockingly ignorant and had legitimately witty things to say about fiction.
Though I never thought of it as a hugbox at the time anyway.
Whatever for?
Unfortunately, I have work in the morning, so I can't stick around. 'Night y'all!
On the Internet, it's very easy to hate other people because we dehumanize them. We convince ourselves that there is no man behind the ignorant opinion or stupid comment. We convince ourselves that the person who said the stupid thing isn't a person, but the stupid thing that was said. It's why resentment towards tropers has always bothered me. With very little exception, almost everyone there was a kind, decent person, but everyone there also had, well flaws. And what I've noticed is that people are perfectly fine with personal flaws so long as no one else has them. We don't like people to have flaws because we prefer our friends to be perfect and our enemies to be pure evil. The realization that a friend is just as human as us or that an enemy has redeeming qualities is upsetting. We either ignore it in the case of our enemies or reject our friends. Which is disappointing, because I have this problem too, and I hate myself for it.
TBH I was fairly slow to notice that the TVT IJBM was stupid. I guess this made me a typical IJBMer.
I miss the staff on TVT, but at this point I can understand why other people didn't like how we were running it, and I don't feel any strong desire to return.