The Trash Heap of the Heapers' Hangout

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  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    i bless the rains down in africa
  • damn, you know what

    there are a lot of good songs about Africa and Australia.

  • The sadness will last forever.
    toto
  • The sadness will last forever.
    yay
  • edited 2012-07-02 03:10:01

    I was thinking about hugboxes and what is normal and standards and the geek social fallacies and I came up with some rather amusing insights, but now I am sleepy and can't articulate the correctly.
  • edited 2012-07-02 03:12:11
    I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    ...funny, earlier I was thinking that one of the downsides of nerdiness was having overly narrow interests. At least it is for me, or maybe it's just Asperger's.
  • So the past two nights my brother's been sleeping on the ground in my room (beats me as to why).

    Tonight it seems that he cut out the middle man and crashed on my bed.

    I want my bed back but I don't think I want to wake him up.
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    Doesn't he have his own room?
  • edited 2012-07-02 03:17:19

    It's...

    I'll go over this later when I'm more coherent, but I was thinking about Mr. W talking about bullies at his school waaay back,and then a more recent thing, and my brain connected it to what went down between TVT and that one SA thread before it all became one big thread. And then that linked to this endless search for "content" and the text of the OP of that new SA large-scale mock thread, and then my point in the Kindle thread and the two ways I went at that, and then it went backwards through that and went to how subcultures relate to the larger culture and how this all relates to fundamental uncertainty throughout the general "geek/nerd/whateverthefuck" community in its place in society as a whole.
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    I have narrow interests, too. I feel like it narrows my perspective too much because oftentimes I can only view things through the lens of my current obsession.

    For instance, this storm that just happened. It had a lot of effects on people's day-to-day life, but what's the part that catches my attention? Traffic lights going out!
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    Funny, I link big events with how news organizations should cover them. Maybe because I keep irregularly thinking about ABC News Now (in real life it is a little-known channel that ABC doesn't really care about, but my version of it is a serious attempt to compete with the big cable news channels), and their priorities and style of reporting and presenting news.
  • Why is that important though? You enjoy yourself!


    But then if you support weird things you are being a hugbox.


    This all is linked.


    Somehow.


    Thank you mr. brain for your surreal intinterpretive dance of intuition and nonsense.
  • Anonus said:

    Doesn't he have his own room?

    Yeah, but he shares it with my crazed younger sister. I think he might miss having a room with me since that was how it always was for him, I suppose.

    I didn't want to fold the futon down with him on it do I just decided I'd crash down here. No big deal. My mom might be weirded out by it but hey, I wanted to be a nice brother just this once.
  • edited 2012-07-02 03:28:13
    I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    ^^^If you're talking about narrow interests, I'm worried about how they'd impact my work as a graphic designer or artist. Graphic designers tend to be interested in other forms of design too, such as architecture, which I have a passing interest in and little knowledge of. :/

    ^Case in point: the first thing I noticed was Sentinel. (I think Texas Monthly commissioned Sentinel, actually.)
  • In other news, the wind's blowing really hard outside. It's kind of scary; I hope it's not anything like last year's April.

    I'm still kind of weirded out by that. Sure, it got me my own room and stuff, but just the whole idea of half of my house blowing away was -- is -- kind of ridiculous to me.
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    Wait, what?
  • TreTre
    edited 2012-07-02 03:32:27
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    Tornado stuff. In 2011 I had to move out of my house for 4 months because of a random tornado.

    I did get my own room out of the whole ordeal though. So not everything about it sucked.

    Sorry. Heavy wind gets me thinking about it sometimes.
  • edited 2012-07-02 03:34:39

    Thank you mr. brain for your surreal intinterpretive dance of intuition and nonsense.

    I'm tempted to link that Oglaf comic where the guy who bones a lot of people in his quest for vengeance stumbles upon this caterpillar-giraffe-thing that makes these nonsensical metaphors, but NSFW.

    Niiight everyojndalsjkdsl
  • TreTre
    edited 2012-07-02 03:36:04
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    Night, Roland.

    And with that, the topic is now bananas.
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    Look at that. Delicious.
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    Why is that important though? You enjoy yourself!
    I do enjoy myself, but all the same I feel like I'm missing the forest for the trees, so to speak. I now find myself thinking in detail about the psychology behind why drivers react the way they do to broken traffic lights, but I'm missing the bigger picture about the effects of the storm as a whole.

    Granted, there is a place for somebody to think about the psychology behind driving, so it can be understood and made safer, but is that person me?
  • It's...

    I'll go over this later when I'm more coherent, but I was thinking about Mr. W talking about bullies at his school waaay back,and then a more recent thing, and my brain connected it to what went down between TVT and that one SA thread before it all became one big thread. And then that linked to this endless search for "content" and the text of the OP of that new SA large-scale mock thread, and then my point in the Kindle thread and the two ways I went at that, and then it went backwards through that and went to how subcultures relate to the larger culture and how this all relates to fundamental uncertainty throughout the general "geek/nerd/whateverthefuck" community in its place in society as a whole.



    I am tired as hell but this bothers me.

    This has been running through my mind for awhile, what in the hell is "the geek community"? And replace geek with "nerd" or whatever else at your leisure.

    I mean, here's a list of sites I've heard described as "geeky" by more than a few people.

    • 4chan
    • 2channel
    • reddit
    • Something Awful
    • Slashdot
    • IGN
    • Sankaku Complex
    • danbooru
    • tumblr
    • tvtropes
    • livejournal

    Now, with that layed out. What per se, do any of these have in common aside from a couple surface similarities? Most of these communities either don't interact or actively dislike each other. So what's the "community" here? It just seems to me to be a bunch of unrelated groups of people, which is sort of the opposite of a community. And when I see things like "The Ten Geek Social Fallacies" I tend to scrunch up my face and think "what the fuck is this bullshit?" because while I've done perhaps one of them before, most of them are not things "geeks" do, most of them are things people who are socially awkward do. And if we just define "Geek" as "someone who's socially awkward and has niche interests" that's not a fuckin' community, that's just a bunch of people, and there's a huge difference between those two things! I just don't get it. 


  • I cannot fucking sleep. My chest hurts and I'm just generally uncomfortable.
  • edited 2012-07-02 04:14:44

    Community isn't the right word, I think subculture captures it better. What do they have in common?
    • 4chan
    • 2channel
    • reddit
    • Something Awful
    • Slashdot
    • IGN
    • Sankaku Complex
    • danbooru
    • tumblr
    • tvtropes
    • livejournal
    It's simple: They spend a significant portion of their free time interacting with people and content they are not directly in connection with IRL. Subculture is defined by the wider culture, to who all such persons are people who are "geek/nerd/whatevers who spend too much time online"


    Of course, as you say they don't have much in common, and furthermore some are more ok with their status as "other" in the larger culture than others in the group. That is what produces tension. There are those who want to be accepted in the larger culture, they feel that the other sub-subgroup are the ones they get lumped in with by society, the "neckbeards who masturbate to strange things" or what have you.


    Furthermore, anyone who actively rejects or is indifferent to the judgement of society as a whole is clearly the problem. They are the reason everyone thinks you're weird, and they must be culled from the group so that it can be accepted.



    That whole thing there scales down into the subdivisions of internet culture too. The same tensions are exhibited within fandoms and sites themselves. It's those other tropers/goons/bronies/furries/otaku/gamers! they're giving us a bad name!


    I mean, there are some that are, but not nearly as many as...


    Am I making any sense?


    ^ (*Hug*)
  • Try as I might, I cannot fall asleep on a leather couch with prior intent to do so.

    -sigh- I guess I'll stay up until I just crash somewhere.
  • Sorry, Lazzy, I hope you feel better soon.
  • edited 2012-07-02 04:23:11

    It's funny because it's true.



    I remember I used to think this was too heavy.


    I now find it quite palatable.


    And I'm not even that hardcore.
  • Am I making any sense?

    More or less.

    I see what you're saying I just don't find that a compelling reason that they should be listened to. And really, I have about as much in common with the stereotypical goon as I do the stereotypical otaku, which is like two things in both cases. I think it's really a very artificial divide and not a very constructive one.

    Also I really hate the term neckbeard, mostly because I have one, mostly because my hair is so thick that I can't shave it myself (I'm not fucking kidding, I've gotten razors stuck in there), I have to go to a barber, which is not cheap, so I don't do it often.

  • I just don't find that a compelling reason that they should be listened to.
    Me neither.
  • Well we agree on that much, then.

    Goddammit I wanna sleep but can't.

    Fuck LA, this place sucks. I know! Because Iiiii live here.

    --Busdriver, "Superhands Mantra (Fuck Us All)"

  • Goddammit I wanna sleep but can't.


    You're in good company, friend.
  • I've even got Transglobal Underground on and it's not helping.

    Though my cousin texting me isn't helping either, but she's in the same boat I am.

  • ugh. I feel morning approaching like some bright-clawed astral beast
  • "we would like to do something to your body...."

    Transglobal Underground, ladies and gentlemen

  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    From the east, the morning comes, its only goal to rip away the joy and content of our lazy bliss and enslave us all in a menial Monday routine.
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    Such a bittersweet thing, the sun. Her heat burns us. Her light blinds us. And yet we rely on her, as a child relies on her mother. Her heat gives us warmth. Her light gives us sight.
  • TreTre
    edited 2012-07-02 05:16:33
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    I wrote a poem in this post

    You can read it over at the poetry thread if you want
  • Consumed by tongues ov fire

    Burning like Phlegethon

    Holy gardens reduced to ash

    Extinguishing light ov hope

    Bringing the end ov the days


    Words ov my gospel scattered



    Sacrilegious scorn spat in pale creeds

    Thin is the line between pure being and pure nothing

    My sole companion

    Woe to Thee!
    [ Lyrics from: http://www.lyricsty.com/behemoth-shemhamforash-lyrics.html ]



    At my command:

    Let the blood ov the infants flood the streets ov Bethelehem!


    O ye ov little faith



    With ethics rotten in a moral cage

    Dead meat thrown down to the worms

    To feed religious tumor

    Corrupting marrow ov repugnant swirl


    At my command:



    Let the blood ov the infants flood the streets ov Bethelehem!

    At my command:

    Let the heads ov Samaritan pave my ways!


    You know it's blackened death metal because "ov".

  • You know what's odd?

    I am not at all a metalhead (though some of it is pretty good) but I really like Metalocalypse (and Beavis and Butt-head, but everyone likes B&B).

    Strange.
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    CA is that from something or did you write that yourself?
  • edited 2012-07-02 05:28:15
    You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    I made it up for that post, but I'm sure tons of similar things already exist.

    Also, so as not to talkpost in Fouria's game thread: I didn't realize Simon was developed by Ralph Fucking Baer. That game is now twice as awesome as it was before.
  • Who's Ralph Frakking Baer?
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    The inventor of the games console, among other things.

    But you spelled his middle name wrong! :p
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    Greed doesn't appeal to me the way it did two years ago, for some reason.

    It's strange; I always felt weird for liking characters like Veruca Salt and Princess Morbucks because it's obvious the writers intended for us to find them spoiled and obnoxious. But because of my family's financial situation, their position of "get handed everything you wanted" seemed like massive wish fulfillment to me, even though it's presented in the stories as a bad thing.

    ...This is probably stupid
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